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Old 07-16-2010, 07:31 AM   #31
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

Kudus to Doug for apperaing to be right about a prospect when he seemed to be the only one defending his position... Again. (and to anyone else who agreed without him, but I really don't remember anyone else)
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:59 AM   #32
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Kudus to Doug for apperaing to be right about a prospect when he seemed to be the only one defending his position... Again. (and to anyone else who agreed without him, but I really don't remember anyone else)
Maybe you have me on ignore then.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:30 AM   #33
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Maybe you have me on ignore then.
nope. Just a bad memory. Kudus to you too.

I know there were some, I just couldn't remember who they were. I just know I was not one of them..
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Old 07-16-2010, 09:52 AM   #34
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

If you want a refresher on the scope of a lot of the Mes talk, here's a link to a search on the minors forum that gets you the prime threads:

http://www.redszone.com/forums/searc...earchid=432550
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Old 07-16-2010, 09:57 AM   #35
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

Is he still retiring?
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Old 07-16-2010, 09:59 AM   #36
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

Very cool stuff on him. Always great to see stuff like this.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:05 AM   #37
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

haha one thread topic was Mesoraco vs. Mitch Canham.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=canham001mit
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:20 AM   #38
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

There was some more interesting chatter around page six of this thread when Mes was only ranked the 30th best prospect in the system at the end of 2009:

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79392
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:26 AM   #39
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

Absolutely membengal. If he continues this pace throughout the rest of this season, he has to be the systems #1 prospect. He also has to be the 3rd best rated catcher left in the minors behind Montero, who'll probably end up a DH and Arencibia who is 24 and is putting up better #'s at AAA than Mez is at both levels combined. ( http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...pbp&pid=450317 )... A lot of people overlook value of position. Catchers and SS are the two hardest positions to develop in the Minors. They are the two most demanding positions on the field defensively and if you can get anything out of them offensively, that seems to be a bonus. Mez has the rare chance of being both. A solid defensive catcher who could just put up some strong #4 in the lineup type numbers in a couple years playing half his games in GABP.
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

Also it will be interesting to see how he hold up over the last 50 games or so. He will reach his career high in AB's in about 4 games and career high in games caught by the first week of August. I wonder if he will hit a fatigue factor as a result. Either which way, I see him probably getting a look see in the AFL to see how he fairs against top end prospects like himself.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:34 AM   #41
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

I think it's fair to say no one predicted the kind of breakout we're seeing. A couple lessons probably gleanable from what's happened....

Doug's insistence on peripherals was on target in this case.

If your thumbs hurt, it's hard to catch and it's hard to hit.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:39 AM   #42
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There was some more interesting chatter around page six of this thread when Mes was only ranked the 30th best prospect in the system at the end of 2009:

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79392
Also note some of the Travis Wood discussion.
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:30 AM   #43
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Re: Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus on Devin Mesoraco

The NL's best offense could get better next season if Mes is ready and able to produce.
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:00 PM   #44
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Absolutely membengal. If he continues this pace throughout the rest of this season, he has to be the systems #1 prospect. He also has to be the 3rd best rated catcher left in the minors behind Montero, who'll probably end up a DH and Arencibia who is 24 and is putting up better #'s at AAA than Mez is at both levels combined. ( http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...pbp&pid=450317 )... A lot of people overlook value of position. Catchers and SS are the two hardest positions to develop in the Minors. They are the two most demanding positions on the field defensively and if you can get anything out of them offensively, that seems to be a bonus. Mez has the rare chance of being both. A solid defensive catcher who could just put up some strong #4 in the lineup type numbers in a couple years playing half his games in GABP.
I would take Mesoraco over Arencibia without thinking about it. Defense baby. Arencibia isn't a good defender at all. Lots of power, very questionable plate discipline and the league he is playing in is incredibly hitter friendly. The power is legit, he has killed it wherever he has ever played. Catcher is an interesting position right now to rank in the minors.
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