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Old 08-07-2010, 08:32 AM   #1
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Tired of Walkoff Celebrations

Grumpy old fart alert:

So I'm watching Prince Fielder strut around the field after a lucky carom off the stands allows the game winning run to score from first. The rest of the team joins him, they're screaming and jumping like they just won game 7 of the World Series. It is then I realized that I have grown weary of these "walkoff win," made for TV celebrations. Another byproduct of the highlight reel generation, for sure. Too much of a good thing makes the thing trivial. The walkoff celebrations are now trivial. Take the cameras off and my guess is they would go away. Let them go the way of the high 5.

While I'm here, I also could do without the college adapted victory line after each game.

Disclaimer: It could be entirely possible that it was watching a very fat man that makes a mockery of the term "professional athlete" that turned my stomach. I don't like Prince Fielder, so that bias may be creeping in here
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:00 AM   #2
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Re: Tired of Walkoff Celebrations

Easy solution: make "non-chalant" fashionable. Someone email Brandon Phillips or Orlando Cabrera with the idea that behaving like "we do this everyday" on walkoffs is cool.

It will catch on. (keep fingers crossed).
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:08 AM   #3
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Re: Tired of Walkoff Celebrations

I don't mind them if they are spontaneous, and that Brewer one was pretty spontaneous. They were losing in the ninth at home, and came back to win it with a close play at the plate. That's a pretty good reason to get excited.

But yeah, for the most part, team celebrations are getting tiresome. Many seem to be more about rubbing it in the face of the opponent than celebrating a good win.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:08 AM   #4
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The line doesn't bother me. Hell I'd like to see them go back to shaking hands with the other team like little league.

The walk off is a little played out though. I mean its 162 games, you're gonna win in the bottom of the 9th a half dozen or so times just by luck.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:11 AM   #5
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Re: Tired of Walkoff Celebrations

In general, they've gotten tiresome...I agree. But the only one that's actually annoyed me (besides the ones involving injuries) is that Fielder one when all his teammates fell down as he stomped the plate. Sure, it was initially funny because it was unexpected...but in hindsight it was a real slap in the face at the opposing team. I would've expected Fielder to get plunked his next AB. And it's not like they were in first place or anything.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:13 AM   #6
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Re: Tired of Walkoff Celebrations

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Easy solution: make "non-chalant" fashionable. Someone email Brandon Phillips or Orlando Cabrera with the idea that behaving like "we do this everyday" on walkoffs is cool.

It will catch on. (keep fingers crossed).
"Act like you've been there before son." Those days are gone in a "show me the money" world.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:23 AM   #7
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Re: Tired of Walkoff Celebrations

It was pretty much the Reds who invented the walk-off celebration, wasn't it, with Sean Casey's "bounce"? But it seems that Prince Fielder and the Brewers have made it into a production.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:56 AM   #8
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It was pretty much the Reds who invented the walk-off celebration, wasn't it, with Sean Casey's "bounce"? But it seems that Prince Fielder and the Brewers have made it into a production.
Well, the current version of the Brewers do remind me a lot of the Casey, et al Reds. Poorly constructed roster, some mashers, no pitching, a shaky/poor bullpen, fans getting excited about prospects more than the team on the field, and occasional offense induced dramatic comebacks.
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Re: Tired of Walkoff Celebrations

Food for thought: Why isn't everyone jumping up and down, sprinting out of the dugout doing Santo heel clicks, slapping the closer on the head, and mobbing each other after a bases loaded two out jam ends the game?
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Food for thought: Why isn't everyone jumping up and down, sprinting out of the dugout doing Santo heel clicks, slapping the closer on the head, and mobbing each other after a bases loaded two out jam ends the game?
If a team hits a walk-off hit, they are expected to celebrate. If a team went and just high-fived each other after a normal win, the media would be all over them about the team showing no emotion and not really caring about their win (because everybody else in that situation would have celebrated)

In the case of the bases loaded jam, they aren't expected to celebrate. I'm guessing after one a team could start jumping up and down and possibly start a trend, but would we want that?

My guess is the only way to get rid of the celebrations is to have them banned by baseball, because I doubt there will just be a pioneer team to stop doing them
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:38 AM   #13
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Why would Sportscenter and Baseball Tonight care to show any Brewers' highlights if it wasn't for this? It's a small market team that's not a threat to win its division. The more time they spend showing those highlights, the less remains to hype whatever the teams on the large coastal markets are doing.

If you want to think even more cynically, consider this. Maybe Prince Fielder's agent put him up to this, to raise his client's profile during the last year of his contract? Could there be a better way to get fans in the big markets clamoring to have this oversized, lovable slugger do his thing for their team? His agent can point to that Sportscenter hype and clamoring to start a bidding war.
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:47 AM   #14
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Why would Sportscenter and Baseball Tonight care to show any Brewers' highlights if it wasn't for this? It's a small market team that's not a threat to win its division. The more time they spend showing those highlights, the less remains to hype whatever the teams on the large coastal markets are doing.

If you want to think even more cynically, consider this. Maybe Prince Fielder's agent put him up to this, to raise his client's profile during the last year of his contract? Could there be a better way to get fans in the big markets clamoring to have this oversized, lovable slugger do his thing for their team? His agent can point to that Sportscenter hype and clamoring to start a bidding war.
Prince Fielder's agent put him up to what? He is almost exactly like every other player after a walk of. I'm actually in the minority here. I think it's cool that these guys care so much about a win when they are ten games out.
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Old 08-07-2010, 11:14 AM   #15
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Re: Tired of Walkoff Celebrations

I have given this some thought in the past and I suspect Major League Baseball has encouraged the players to do this to try and create an atmosphere of excitement about the game and enhance the "fan experience". Most walk offs are truly exciting and the celebration comes naturally. But, I think we have all seen a last place team in mid August win a ballgame on a bases loaded walk, and the entire bench empties, the "hop" rears it's ugly head, fireworks go off and you would have thought the team in question just won a championship. It just screams fraud, and yet it always happens. The NFL rules committee has a reputation as a stodgy, grim body whose sole purpose in life is to take as much fun out of the game as possible. And so, I think baseball likes the idea of having an alternative to that. The victory celebration.

Fielder annoys me too, btw.
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