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    Way To Go Hal McCoy

    I have to wonder why Hal Mccoy felt the need to publish the comments Phillips made in front of only him and Jim Day. granted Phillips is responsible for his own words and actions but I dont see why McCoy, a lifetime writer For the Reds would feel the need to publish the entire remark. no wonder Phillips doesnt talk much with the Cincy media. More than likely he very well could have been ,having fun ala Ocho Cinco.

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    I did find it a little funny that Jim Day brought up "Some players say it was off the record, but Phillips owned up to them" once I found out that McCoy and Day were the only 2 standing there.

    Either way McCoy should report those things. Its his job.

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    Last time I checked writers write for publicity. He was probably typing up the story as BP was speaking.

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    How has Hal's role changed in recent years? I swear he was going to retire. Is he no longer "official"?

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

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    How has Hal's role changed in recent years? I swear he was going to retire. Is he no longer "official"?
    He works for Fox Sports Ohio on their website. I've also seen articles of his in the Oxford Press on their website, so yeah, he's official.

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    Yea Hal McCoy basically is an old guy who retired but found a job working from home and said sure.

    He only goes to the home games I believe.

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    I guess he officially retired from just the Dayton Daily News print last year. He still maintains a blog on their website however. He also got one year of salary to retire.

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    It's not really Hals fault, if Hal hadn't been around, Phillips would have said it to somebody else, and they would have published it. Blaming this thing on Hal is just shooting the messenger.

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    I'm no conspiracy theorist, but wouldn't it be in the best interest of the Reds organization to manufacture rivalries to get the fans fired up? Would it really be that surprising if Phillips (not to mention Votto at the ASB) was encouraged to talk a little trash?
    FIRE DUSTY Never mind. The man is clearly a genius.

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    If you go to Hal's blog, you will find that Phillips was delighted with Hal's story.

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    If you don't want comments to get out, then you don't say them to a reporter, whether they are a reporter for your team or not. Essentially, comments like this is what sells papers and drives up website hits. McCoy did nothing wrong.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    Give Hal a break. He's blind. He couldn't see it coming.

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    Also in the same blog where you can read with your own eyes that Brandon was not "off the record" (rather, he was obviously answering a question about whether or not his foot injury would place his availability in question, and in so doing, decided to explain exactly why he would not be missing the Cardinal series), you can see Bronson Arroyo get to the Heart of the Matter, well before last night's game was even played:

    "These types of things don’t mean a whole lot. We play the game to play the game and what Brandon says in the clubhouse isn’t going to affect the outcome of the ballgame." -- Bronson Arroyo, 8/10/10

    And that's exactly how it should have been. Nothing said in the media should affect the way the game is played on the field. And yet: the Cards (first Molina, and then Carpenter) decided to take an unrelated bit of media fluffery and actual pretend like it had a place on the field of play, and things escalated into a giant mess that will now require MLB video reviews and multiple suspensions.

    Which means that this incident won't just affect the "outcome of the game" (as Bronson pointed out that it shouldn't), it will affect the outcomes of SEVERAL games (depending on the numbers of games missed by whatever number of players) and perhaps even affect the outcome of a pennant race.

    And that's not on Phillips. That's on the Cards. Entirely on them. It sucks if there was actual physical harm done to any players, but in the grander cosmic scheme of things, the Institutional Harm that is owed is pretty much 90% owed to the Cards (the Reds can take 10% for Phillips actually giving a crap when Molina started pitching his little fit, instead of just laughing at him and offering up a pitying shake of the head, like I would have). I wish MLB would see it that way, too... but I bet they don't.

    Somebody forward Selig the Prophetic Wisdom of Bronson Arroyo, and make sure they take that into consideration.

    Maybe they'll actually grasp the concept that what happens in the realm of showboating is unrelated to what happens in the course of a game. Molina wants to imitate Phillips as he makes a home run trot? That's a proper retort to somebody calling you a (fitting and apt) name. Instigating a mid-game fight that will have repercussions on an entire play-off chace is not. Having your Drama Queen star SP make things even worse after things have settled down is even less appropriate.

    My fingers are crossed, but my pessimism is mighty...


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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    Quote Originally Posted by FlightRick View Post
    And that's exactly how it should have been. Nothing said in the media should affect the way the game is played on the field. And yet: the Cards (first Molina, and then Carpenter) decided to take an unrelated bit of media fluffery and actual pretend like it had a place on the field of play, and things escalated into a giant mess that will now require MLB video reviews and multiple suspensions.

    Which means that this incident won't just affect the "outcome of the game" (as Bronson pointed out that it shouldn't), it will affect the outcomes of SEVERAL games (depending on the numbers of games missed by whatever number of players) and perhaps even affect the outcome of a pennant race.

    And that's not on Phillips. That's on the Cards. Entirely on them. It sucks if there was actual physical harm done to any players, but in the grander cosmic scheme of things, the Institutional Harm that is owed is pretty much 90% owed to the Cards (the Reds can take 10% for Phillips actually giving a crap when Molina started pitching his little fit, instead of just laughing at him and offering up a pitying shake of the head, like I would have). I wish MLB would see it that way, too... but I bet they don't.

    Somebody forward Selig the Prophetic Wisdom of Bronson Arroyo, and make sure they take that into consideration.

    Maybe they'll actually grasp the concept that what happens in the realm of showboating is unrelated to what happens in the course of a game. Molina wants to imitate Phillips as he makes a home run trot? That's a proper retort to somebody calling you a (fitting and apt) name. Instigating a mid-game fight that will have repercussions on an entire play-off chace is not. Having your Drama Queen star SP make things even worse after things have settled down is even less appropriate.

    My fingers are crossed, but my pessimism is mighty...


    Rick
    Rick that is the best post I have read all night! Well said!

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    Re: Way To Go Hal McCoy

    Is Phillips bi-polar? Why did the dude try to tap molina right after calling him a *****? I mean c'mon, tough latin catcher......you know he doesn't like being called a ***** and especially doesn't like someone talking about his team like that. Everything was pretty chill till Cueto started kicking like a monkey. I just hope we don't start throwing at each other, would hate to see Albert or Votto get hurt.

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