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Patrick Bateman · 08-13-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by edabbs44

Defense is the flavor of the month. For all the defense talk, Heisey had a boneheaded play vs STL as well. I realize that he has become a fan favorite and I wouldn't be bothered with him starting, but maybe we can face reality and see that there might be a legit reason for him not to start.

So what I'm not even allowed to mention defense in a post?

I mentioned both compnents and suggested that using Nix probably hurts in BOTH areas, and definitley hurts us defenisvely.

It's not like Nix is a good hitter. Generally speaking, the reasoning to get him on the field would be his defense, but I suppose you don't care much about that, so why do you want him playing?

Cedric · 08-13-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by edabbs44

Defense is the flavor of the month. For all the defense talk, Heisey had a boneheaded play vs STL as well. I realize that he has become a fan favorite and I wouldn't be bothered with him starting, but maybe we can face reality and see that there might be a legit reason for him not to start.

I personally am starting to wonder if you even read and analyze opinions that go against the FO. At this point it looks like you would rather just label us all into "FO hater/Heisey fan favorite" category, rather than actually debate our opinions.

This is the third time in less than a week I've basically been labeled something by you. It's not exactly good for intelligent discussion. I'm not running around and labeling you a FO shill.

edabbs44 · 08-13-2010, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

So what I'm not even allowed to mention defense in a post?

I mentioned both compnents and suggested that using Nix probably hurts in BOTH areas, and definitley hurts us defenisvely.

It's not like Nix is a good hitter. Generally speaking, the reasoning to get him on the field would be his defense, but I suppose you don't care much about that, so why do you want him playing?

It's not that I want him playing, it's the reaction to him playing. Like Heisey is some automatic start. There are legit reasons why he may be sitting.

Patrick Bateman · 08-13-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by edabbs44

It's not that I want him playing, it's the reaction to him playing. Like Heisey is some automatic start. There are legit reasons why he may be sitting.

Well, considering Nix' history, I think the question should be more why are we making room for him in the line-up when we have a young player that has come up and impressed right from day one at the plate, while also being able to play a premium defensive position that is currently filled by a guy who is like 83 years old.

I'm not saying Heisey is a god or something. If we are going to talk small sample sizes, you have to be skeptical of Heisey. At the same time, are we really that concerned that he can't outplay Nix, especially when Heisey benefits the contruction of the team on the field?

edabbs44 · 08-13-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cedric

I personally am starting to wonder if you even read and analyze opinions that go against the FO. At this point it looks like you would rather just label us all into "FO hater/Heisey fan favorite" category, rather than actually debate our opinions.

This is the third time in less than a week I've basically been labeled something by you. It's not exactly good for intelligent discussion. I'm not running around and labeling you a FO shill.

You can call me that, it won't bother me. I've been called it before, but not since they became a contender. Kind of stopped around then.

Intelligent discussion is good, but haven't we reached the point where the trust is there? This is the best team we have seen, by far, in years and yet these guys still seem to struggle with who to start? Kind of hard to believe. Enjoy the game and root for the guys on the field. Don't get so caught up in these kinds of decisions. We are acting like Baker and Jocketty decided to bench Votto for Cairo bc of the matchup.

reds1869 · 08-13-2010, 06:17 PM

Heading over to the ballpark thanks to KittyDuran's generosity!

mth123 · 08-13-2010, 06:23 PM

I'd like to see Heisey in there 5 days a week or so, but I think sitting him against Josh Johnson is doing him a favor. Not sure it really matters who is in the line-up tonight. I'd place the line on three Reds hits this evening and I'd bet the under.

Hope like heck I'm wrong.

RedsMan3203 · 08-13-2010, 06:39 PM

I've said it before, and I'mma say it again...

Its not about how you lose, its about how you come back from that loss.

(We all wanted the last 3 games, but the Reds have been on a roll... They were due a few off days.. Just came on a bad day)

Lets go out and get them tonight!

SirFelixCat · 08-13-2010, 06:47 PM

Go Reds! Tough assignment tonight, but I just want them to come out and play the game like they know how and I'd be ok w/ that.

Patrick Bateman · 08-13-2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edabbs44

You can call me that, it won't bother me. I've been called it before, but not since they became a contender. Kind of stopped around then.

Intelligent discussion is good, but haven't we reached the point where the trust is there? This is the best team we have seen, by far, in years and yet these guys still seem to struggle with who to start? Kind of hard to believe. Enjoy the game and root for the guys on the field. Don't get so caught up in these kinds of decisions. We are acting like Baker and Jocketty decided to bench Votto for Cairo bc of the matchup.

Well, they certainly haven't gotten as far as they have with Nix getting at-bats in the 2 hole.

TheNext44 · 08-13-2010, 07:04 PM

Keels and Brantley doing the TV tonight.

Basically the Garfunkel and Oates of the Broadcasting crews.

RedsMan3203 · 08-13-2010, 07:11 PM

And we are a go.... The past is the past... LETS DO THIS!

Redsfan320 · 08-13-2010, 07:11 PM

I'll do PBP

320

Redsfan320 · 08-13-2010, 07:13 PM

5-3
1 out
Morrison up

BB
Runner on 1st
1 out
Sanchez up

320

GAC · 08-13-2010, 07:13 PM

chat is open

08-13-2010, 06:17 PM	#21
reds1869 We Need Our Myths Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Overlooking GABP Posts: 4,162	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins Heading over to the ballpark thanks to KittyDuran's generosity!

08-13-2010, 06:23 PM	#22
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,658	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins I'd like to see Heisey in there 5 days a week or so, but I think sitting him against Josh Johnson is doing him a favor. Not sure it really matters who is in the line-up tonight. I'd place the line on three Reds hits this evening and I'd bet the under. Hope like heck I'm wrong. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

08-13-2010, 06:39 PM	#23
RedsMan3203 Reds Slacker '07 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,783	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins I've said it before, and I'mma say it again... Its not about how you lose, its about how you come back from that loss. (We all wanted the last 3 games, but the Reds have been on a roll... They were due a few off days.. Just came on a bad day) Lets go out and get them tonight! __________________ You think you got what it takes to play a real fantasy game? Join me at Jockstocks. You can play Baseball, Basketball, Football, Golf, Nascar and even Hockey! Jockstocks Homepage Do you have your shirt on? - Adam Dunn to Marty on the Bananna Phone.

08-13-2010, 06:47 PM	#24
SirFelixCat Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 5,671	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins Go Reds! Tough assignment tonight, but I just want them to come out and play the game like they know how and I'd be ok w/ that. __________________ Resident Poker Pro

08-13-2010, 07:04 PM	#26
TheNext44 Socratic Gadfly Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,224	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins Keels and Brantley doing the TV tonight. Basically the Garfunkel and Oates of the Broadcasting crews. __________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

08-13-2010, 07:11 PM	#27
RedsMan3203 Reds Slacker '07 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,783	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins And we are a go.... The past is the past... LETS DO THIS! __________________ You think you got what it takes to play a real fantasy game? Join me at Jockstocks. You can play Baseball, Basketball, Football, Golf, Nascar and even Hockey! Jockstocks Homepage Do you have your shirt on? - Adam Dunn to Marty on the Bananna Phone.

08-13-2010, 07:11 PM	#28
Redsfan320 2 in 3 years! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oxford, OH Posts: 2,277	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins I'll do PBP 320 __________________ I'd rather listen to Kelch read the phone book than suffer through Thom Brennaman's attempt to make every instance on the field the most important event since the discovery of manned space flight. -westofyou

08-13-2010, 07:13 PM	#29
Redsfan320 2 in 3 years! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oxford, OH Posts: 2,277	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins 5-3 1 out Morrison up BB Runner on 1st 1 out Sanchez up 320 __________________ I'd rather listen to Kelch read the phone book than suffer through Thom Brennaman's attempt to make every instance on the field the most important event since the discovery of manned space flight. -westofyou

08-13-2010, 07:13 PM	#30
GAC What Me Worry? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bellefontaine, Ohio Posts: 26,416	Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins chat is open __________________ "panic" only comes from having real expectations

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