Chris Robinson Calls Taylor Swift "Horrible"

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by GIDP

The first one wasnt the same Creed.

I'm admittedly not a Creed fan, but I kind of thought every song sounded the same. Actually, I'll confess I may not have heard many of the songs from "My Own Prison" but at least after that, all their songs sounded identical.

[757690]

Heard in every household throughout time since music was invented...

"Will you turn that crap down?"
"It's not crap, Dad, it's music!"
"That ain't music, that's just noise. When I was your age we listened to (insert age appropriate musical artist here). Now that was music!"

[Betterread]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Maybe not, but the point still stands.... if they had mass appeal, I would have heard of them. The fact that Kurt Cobain blew his brains out isn't the reason I never heard of them, the fact that the masses didn't like their music is.

What are you talking about? For about 3-4 years, Nirvana albums were highly anticipated and sold millions. Their concerts, the magazines with their pictures on them and their public appearances were all consumed eagerly. Cobain was a big name and such a big public figure that when he died, millions of people were affected by it. Because he had mental health issues, he never grasped that his music touched a lot of people and he was loved for that gift.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Maybe not, but the point still stands.... if they had mass appeal, I would have heard of them. The fact that Kurt Cobain blew his brains out isn't the reason I never heard of them, the fact that the masses didn't like their music is.

Doug, I was only 14 and didn't listen to anything but the 'oldies' my dad spoonfed me as a kid, but even I had heard of Nirvana at the time, and when Cobain killed himself (or was killed by Courtney Love if you believe in alternate reality), that's all there was being talked about for nearly a week. It was a pretty big deal.

[IslandRed]

Doug wasn't referring to Nirvana when he said he'd have heard of them if they had mass appeal. It was some of the other bands in NeilHamburger's post.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Doug, I was only 14 and didn't listen to anything but the 'oldies' my dad spoonfed me as a kid, but even I had heard of Nirvana at the time, and when Cobain killed himself (or was killed by Courtney Love if you believe in alternate reality), that's all there was being talked about for nearly a week. It was a pretty big deal.

I knew who Nirvana was. No one over the age of 8 in the 90s didn't. I enjoyed them. I was referring to the other bands in that post.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

I knew who Nirvana was. No one over the age of 8 in the 90s didn't. I enjoyed them. I was referring to the other bands in that post.

Oh OK. My bad. I misread that.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Oh OK. My bad. I misread that.

Given two different people thinking I said it, I probably worded what I meant poorly.

[bucksfan]

Originally Posted by ochre

It isn't as simple as that.
for example, one of the bands another poster listed, Mother love bone:
two other members of that group were Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard. They went on to found a little band you might have heard of: Mookie Blaylock

Most bands have issues. Some times they can work through them. I'd say success is just as often a reason bands break up as anything else.

Wow - Not to sidetrack this thread, but I loved seeing MLB mentioned. "Apple" is absolutely one of my top 10 "albums" of all time. "Stargazer" is still one of my favorite songs.

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by ochre

It isn't as simple as that.
for example, one of the bands another poster listed, Mother love bone:
two other members of that group were Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard. They went on to found a little band you might have heard of: Mookie Blaylock

Most bands have issues. Some times they can work through them. I'd say success is just as often a reason bands break up as anything else.

Mookie Blaylock is kind of a pretty good band.

It seems like the entire grunge movement was a bunch of interchangeable parts. If you were good and active you found yourself contributing to many different bands or even albums.

Unfortunately drugs short circuited what could have been some great bands. I guess you could say that about any era, but guys like Lane Staley, Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, etc. all saw great starts to their bands but they ended way too soon if you ask me.

[ochre]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

Mookie Blaylock is kind of a pretty good band.

It seems like the entire grunge movement was a bunch of interchangeable parts. If you were good and active you found yourself contributing to many different bands or even albums.

Unfortunately drugs short circuited what could have been some great bands. I guess you could say that about any era, but guys like Lane Staley, Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, etc. all saw great starts to their bands but they ended way too soon if you ask me.

And the drugs, quite often, went hand in hand with the success/popularity of the band. I'd say especially in the case of Weiland and Staley.

[Joseph]

Originally Posted by bucksfan

Wow - Not to sidetrack this thread, but I loved seeing MLB mentioned. "Apple" is absolutely one of my top 10 "albums" of all time. "Stargazer" is still one of my favorite songs.

You are my new best friend.

I adore that album, still listen to it OFTEN. I have Chloe Dancer in my head all the time for no real reason. I even enjoyed Malfunkshun though they were not nearly as polished as MLB. Still Andy Wood was the very definition, for many in my generation, of the one who went too early, even over Kurt or Layne.

[klw]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

A little. I think Gaslight has a strong "punk" sound to a lot of their music. I think that is what separates them from Bruce.

I do think there is more of a Boss influence in "America Slang" than there was in "The 59 Sound" And FWIW I like "The 59 Sound" better.

Bruce and punk. I got your Bruce punk right here.

YouTube - The clash & Dave Grohl & Bruce Springsteen - London calling

1978 Bruce. Not punk but what a solo.
YouTube - Bruce Springsteen - Prove It All Night - Passaic, NJ - High Quality

then there is Bruce at 60 with Morello. What Morello does starting at about 7:00 minutes in is just sick.
YouTube - Bruce Springsteen Feat. Tom Morello - Ghost Of Tom Joad RNR HOF 2009

Passaic "Because the Night"- for anyone who believes that 10k Maniacs version is the best.
YouTube - Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band - Because The Night

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by ochre

And the drugs, quite often, went hand in hand with the success/popularity of the band. I'd say especially in the case of Weiland and Staley.

Its kind of ironic, but two of my favorite bands are direct off shoots of deaths. I really can't say I am/was much a fan of MLB, but without the death of their front man, Temple of the Dog never produces an album, and Pearl Jam never forms.

Then you have Kurt Cobain who everybody knows about. But without Kurt's death Foo Fighters aren't formed.

You never know how long Nirvana and MLB would have stayed together but both Pearl Jam and Foo Fighters have had a long successful rock career. One that you don't see too often out of successful bands in today's rock climate.

As for Lane Staley it truly is a sad story. Every time AIC mentioned getting back together Staley couldn't keep it together. IIRC Staley died weighing less than 100 pounds and without a dollar to his name.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

Its kind of ironic, but two of my favorite bands are direct off shoots of deaths. I really can't say I am/was much a fan of MLB, but without the death of their front man, Temple of the Dog never produces an album, and Pearl Jam never forms.

Then you have Kurt Cobain who everybody knows about. But without Kurt's death Foo Fighters aren't formed.

You never know how long Nirvana and MLB would have stayed together but both Pearl Jam and Foo Fighters have had a long successful rock career. One that you don't see too often out of successful bands in today's rock climate.

As for Lane Staley it truly is a sad story. Every time AIC mentioned getting back together Staley couldn't keep it together. IIRC Staley died weighing less than 100 pounds and without a dollar to his name.

Give me Mad Season over almost anything.. Much preferred that to TOTD.