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View Poll Results: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?
Quality power and batting average hitter to bat behind Votto, most likely a full time left fielder 30 56.60%
A quality leadoff hitter 11 20.75%
A #1 ace Starting Pitcher 12 22.64%
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:49 PM   #1
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If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

See the poll.
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:25 PM   #2
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

1. ace
2. leadoff hitter
3. quality ba/power in probable form of LF
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:33 PM   #3
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

We need all three of those areas, but I think it's possible we already have our future leadoff hitter (Stubbs), and I think our pitching staff is going to fall into place. We may not have a Roy Halladay type, or a Cliff Lee, but 29 other teams don't either. And I can't see the Reds' management going out and purchasing one, or trading for one.

So that leaves the LF spot, preferrably a combination of good defense and a strong bat to give Joey some much needed protection in the lineup. This gets my vote.
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Old 10-21-2010, 04:51 PM   #4
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

What I found interesting is that all 20 votes went toward the first 3 choices. Nobody picked "other" which means that these 3 items ARE the Reds primary needs in the eyes of the fans. Well, atleast the 20 that have voted.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:35 PM   #5
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

I voted lead-off. As another post outlined, getting a #1 Ace is far beyond the Reds reach, and there is enough quality pitching in the system to honestly expect 3-4 of them to be 15 game winners, which I see as infinitely better than one ace and 3 so-so. The bat to guard Votto should come from within. The Bruce we hoped for might well have emerged the last month+ of the season. And if Mesoraco is for real, then there you go. Not to mention, Frazier, Sappelt, Grandal, etc.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:40 PM   #6
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

If Stubbs is gonna be the CF (safe to assume), then the LF needs to be a LH hitter.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:46 PM   #7
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

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What I found interesting is that all 20 votes went toward the first 3 choices. Nobody picked "other" which means that these 3 items ARE the Reds primary needs in the eyes of the fans. Well, atleast the 20 that have voted.
Ya that seems about right. This season we had a backup player playing full time in left. A limited range SS who hit way to high in the order, and our NLDS game 1 starter was a year removed from tommy john and had made his return about 3 months before the playoffs. And we still made the playoffs.
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:30 AM   #8
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If Stubbs is gonna be the CF (safe to assume), then the LF needs to be a LH hitter.
Please explain this rationale.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:37 AM   #9
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If Stubbs is gonna be the CF (safe to assume), then the LF needs to be a LH hitter.
I would say the exact opposite. If Stubbs is your leadoff guy, then I'm looking for a RH power bat for the middle of the order. I'm not as focused as having a balanced lineup as most, but if I had to choose I wouldn't want my 3 middle of the lineup guys all left handed.

Maybe in a year or two you can find a 3B to fit that bill, but not right now.
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

I keep wondering if the Reds pull off some kind of trade with the Mets to take on Beltran. It would have to involve $$$ to help us pay his contract, and we'd have to send one (or two) of our higher paid players in return.

Mets are disgruntled with Beltran. He's coming back from injury, and will be in the last year of his contract, making approximately $20M. He's a switch hitter who turns 34 in April. He will be in a contract year (headed to free agency) which usually, but not always, encourages a player to produce better. Has played sparingly the last 2 seasons, but played 161 games in 2008 putting up 27 HR's, 112 RBI, 25 SB, 92 Walks, 40 Doubles, .284 batting average, .376 OBP, .500 SLG, and scoring 116 runs. If he could come anywhere near that, he'd be the guy we'd wanting batting behind Joey.

If you could convince the Mets to do a salary swap of players each team is disgruntled with, namely Cordero ($12M) and send them Alonso ($1M) too, and exchange some cash from them to even it out...........they've already suspended K-Rod and need a closer anyway. Cordero is in the last year of his contract too. Plus, they get a future first baseman in the deal.
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I don't want to trade Alonso just to dump Cordero. Cordero will be gone in a year anyway, I want to move Alonso for someone with more of a long term upside.

Plus I don't think K-Rod will stay suspended. I can't see them taking on another closer until he's moved.
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

I think the Mets are pretty happy with Ike Davis as their young first baseman. I don't see them having any interest in Alonzo.
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

I am shocked at the high number of people who selected pitching? Really? Wasn't the end of the season and playoffs a clear enough example that what this team is lacking is a complimentary bat to Votto/Bruce and a reliable LF over pitching? I mean really?
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Re: If the Reds could fill only one need in the offseason, which would you choose?

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Please explain this rationale.
I dont know, but am thnking he meant to say needs ot be a leadoff hitter, not a LH hitter?
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:26 PM   #15
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We need all three of those areas, but I think it's possible we already have our future leadoff hitter (Stubbs), and I think our pitching staff is going to fall into place. We may not have a Roy Halladay type, or a Cliff Lee, but 29 other teams don't either. And I can't see the Reds' management going out and purchasing one, or trading for one.

So that leaves the LF spot, preferrably a combination of good defense and a strong bat to give Joey some much needed protection in the lineup. This gets my vote.
I think that Stubbs might be able to OBP about .340 on a regular basis if he reaches his full potential, but I don't think he'll ever be the OBP monster that you want at the top of the order. I actually like Stubbs hitting 2nd better than at lead off. His K's don't hurt too badly there, and his power is a bit more useful with someone hitting in front of him. His speed is still quite useful, and his ability to avoid DPs in front of Votto is definitely a good thing.
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