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fewfirstchoice · 11-16-2010, 11:39 PM

The Rays need young arms and the Reds have young arms.

Reds get: Jason Bartlett and BJ Upton

Rays get: Leake, Ondrusek, Bray, Janish, and Heisey

That would be a great deal for both teams. The Reds would get the SS and LF they need and the Rays will ge the bull pen help they covet. Janish and Heisey can step in for the departed and go along with the yong pitchers. This deal would make the Reds a true WS contendor.

C-Hannigan
1B- Votto
2B- Phillips
3B- Rolen
SS- Bartlett
LF- Upton
CF- Stubbs
Rf- Bruce

1) Bartlett SS
2) Phillips 2b
3) Votto 1b
4) Upton LF
5) Bruce RF
6) Rolen 3B
7) Stubbs CF
8) Hannigan C

Thats a solid lineup and great D.

lonewolf371 · 11-17-2010, 12:51 AM

I don't think the Rays need any young starters. They're actually trying to find a way to promote Hellickson right now, I believe.

fewfirstchoice · 11-17-2010, 07:31 AM

Not sure about starters but i know they young arms for the pen.

HalMorrisRules · 11-17-2010, 11:22 AM

The Rays are going to be losing Crawford, there is no way they voluntarily give away Upton. Especially for that group that you mentioned.

brm7675 · 11-17-2010, 12:27 PM

Why do people continue to believe teams will just hand over their young promising talent? i mean really come on, yes we have some things we can deal, but this idea that we can take prime talent away from other teams is a bit much.

fewfirstchoice · 11-17-2010, 02:43 PM

The Rays are looking to Move Upton and Bartlett as reported by every site going. They need young arms and the Reds have yonung arms. They may have to add a Masset or a Smith to the deal but they can get it done. Give them 3 good young arms with Heisey and Janish or Valiaka to step in for the departed and the deal could work, no matter if ya like it or not.

Vottomatic · 11-17-2010, 04:14 PM

Upton and Bartlett for Cozart, Valaika, Danny Dorn, and Carlos Fisher.

Vottomatic · 11-17-2010, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fewfirstchoice

The Rays are looking to Move Upton and Bartlett as reported by every site going. They need young arms and the Reds have yonung arms. They may have to add a Masset or a Smith to the deal but they can get it done. Give them 3 good young arms with Heisey and Janish or Valiaka to step in for the departed and the deal could work, no matter if ya like it or not.

We're giving up 5 major leaguers for 2 major leaguers.

2 quality relievers.
1 quality starter.
Our future starting SS.
And a guy who could start in the OF for many teams right now.

I think it's way too much for a guy considered a slacker in Upton and a 31 year old SS coming off a subpar season for himself, which may signal he's on the downside of his career.

brm7675 · 11-17-2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fewfirstchoice

The Rays are looking to Move Upton and Bartlett as reported by every site going. They need young arms and the Reds have yonung arms. They may have to add a Masset or a Smith to the deal but they can get it done. Give them 3 good young arms with Heisey and Janish or Valiaka to step in for the departed and the deal could work, no matter if ya like it or not.

Trust me, a deal this large won't happen with the Reds. It's not Walt's style and the budget isn't there.

Jack Burton · 11-17-2010, 05:30 PM

No thanks on Upton. Saw him quit on quite a few plays already in his career.

brm7675 · 11-17-2010, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

No thanks on Upton. Saw him quit on quite a few plays already in his career.

I hear people say that and I would love to know how you know he quit?

Vottomatic · 11-17-2010, 11:24 PM

Don't think about getting Justin Upton either from the D'backs. I just read on mlbtraderumors that one GM said that the D'backs trade demands are ridiculous.

Girevik · 11-18-2010, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vottomatic

Don't think about getting Justin Upton either from the D'backs. I just read on mlbtraderumors that one GM said that the D'backs trade demands are ridiculous.

That's not unusuall. A lot of times a team will start out with demands that are through the roof just to see if anyone bites, and then lower them as they get closer to spring traingin (or the trade deadline, as the case may be).

Orodle · 11-18-2010, 08:35 PM

Sounds like a video game trade to me. Lets take some expendable guys and trade them for some studs.

Hondo · 11-27-2010, 06:20 PM

Awful Trade Idea.

11-16-2010, 11:39 PM	#1
fewfirstchoice Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 509	Trade idea with Tampa Bay The Rays need young arms and the Reds have young arms. Reds get: Jason Bartlett and BJ Upton Rays get: Leake, Ondrusek, Bray, Janish, and Heisey That would be a great deal for both teams. The Reds would get the SS and LF they need and the Rays will ge the bull pen help they covet. Janish and Heisey can step in for the departed and go along with the yong pitchers. This deal would make the Reds a true WS contendor. C-Hannigan 1B- Votto 2B- Phillips 3B- Rolen SS- Bartlett LF- Upton CF- Stubbs Rf- Bruce 1) Bartlett SS 2) Phillips 2b 3) Votto 1b 4) Upton LF 5) Bruce RF 6) Rolen 3B 7) Stubbs CF 8) Hannigan C Thats a solid lineup and great D.

11-17-2010, 12:51 AM	#2
lonewolf371 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 369	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay I don't think the Rays need any young starters. They're actually trying to find a way to promote Hellickson right now, I believe.

11-17-2010, 07:31 AM	#3
fewfirstchoice Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 509	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay Not sure about starters but i know they young arms for the pen.

11-17-2010, 11:22 AM	#4
HalMorrisRules He sure could hit Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dayton Posts: 702	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay The Rays are going to be losing Crawford, there is no way they voluntarily give away Upton. Especially for that group that you mentioned. __________________ Check out SimLeague Baseball!

11-17-2010, 12:27 PM	#5
brm7675 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,666	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay Why do people continue to believe teams will just hand over their young promising talent? i mean really come on, yes we have some things we can deal, but this idea that we can take prime talent away from other teams is a bit much.

11-17-2010, 02:43 PM	#6
fewfirstchoice Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 509	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay The Rays are looking to Move Upton and Bartlett as reported by every site going. They need young arms and the Reds have yonung arms. They may have to add a Masset or a Smith to the deal but they can get it done. Give them 3 good young arms with Heisey and Janish or Valiaka to step in for the departed and the deal could work, no matter if ya like it or not.

11-17-2010, 04:14 PM	#7
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,820	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay Upton and Bartlett for Cozart, Valaika, Danny Dorn, and Carlos Fisher. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

11-17-2010, 05:30 PM	#10
Jack Burton Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,006	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay No thanks on Upton. Saw him quit on quite a few plays already in his career.

11-17-2010, 11:24 PM	#12
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,820	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay Don't think about getting Justin Upton either from the D'backs. I just read on mlbtraderumors that one GM said that the D'backs trade demands are ridiculous. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

11-18-2010, 08:35 PM	#14
Orodle Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 539	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay Sounds like a video game trade to me. Lets take some expendable guys and trade them for some studs.

11-27-2010, 06:20 PM	#15
Hondo Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Weatherford, Texas Posts: 2,124	Re: Trade idea with Tampa Bay Awful Trade Idea.

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