Reds discussing Jose Reyes? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Benihana · 12-13-2010, 05:46 PM

Hat tip to the SunDeck:

http://network.yardbarker.com/mlb/ar...h_mets/3778439

Not sure how credible this is given it's listed as a blog.

Leake or Bailey, Cordero, and Kris Negron for Reyes?

Yes, please.

JaxRed · 12-13-2010, 06:04 PM

I call BS on this.

Captain Hook · 12-13-2010, 06:05 PM

Best rumor of the offseason imo.Health and an expiring contract might be the only issues here.Other then that, Reyes leading off and playing SS makes the Reds a much better team.He will be, if healthy, one of the top SS in the game.

I would have to imagine that the Mets could get some other teams interested if they're serious about dealing Reyes.I doubt any trade discussion with them will fly under the radar for too long if there's any truth to it.

Captain Hook · 12-13-2010, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaxRed

I call BS on this.

Probably.:thumbdown

GADawg · 12-13-2010, 06:16 PM

Terry Collins says 'ole Frankie is his 9th inning guy...i might believe it if it were 2 starters going their way

Edd Roush · 12-13-2010, 06:23 PM

When I first saw this rumor on the SunDeck, I thought "awesome." However, I looked into the numbers, and just don't like what I see. He had a miserable 2010 with a .321 OBP in over 600 PAs. He can't take a walk and was injured for most of the 2009 season and his 2010 production showed a major drop off. He is making $11,000,000 next year and has had a negative UZR each of the last two years. I don't think I give up any of the young pitchers for Reyes and think I would rather use that hypothetical payroll space on Zach Greinke. I don't want the Reds to make a move for Jose Reyes.

thatcoolguy_22 · 12-13-2010, 06:27 PM

Outside of whether Reyes is worth the trade or not, a trade could work for both teams. Someone on here posted a proposal involving Cordero + chaff for the Mets. That makes the money even for both. I just read on the Cairo thread the Reds could have anywhere from 4-10MM left to spend this offseason. A trade of prospects could work with NY chipping in some $$ to cover some of the contract.

I doubt there is any truth to the rumor, but the Reds match up well with almost any team as a trade partner and they have some money to spend.

However given the option, I'm with Edd in wanting Grienke over Reyes.

edabbs44 · 12-13-2010, 06:27 PM

If anyone wants to see me speak ill of a Jocketty transaction, this is it.

REDSEER · 12-13-2010, 07:11 PM

Per Fay's Twitter:

Quote:

Asked Jocketty about Reyes rumor. "No, we've had no discussions."

The Operator · 12-13-2010, 07:29 PM

John Fay must read this site a LOT.

TheNext44 · 12-13-2010, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REDSEER

Per Fay's Twitter:

Heard that before.

To me that means that it's about a 50/50 chance of happening.

kaldaniels · 12-13-2010, 08:22 PM

Greinke > Reyes
Reyes > Janish
Going by WAR, Reyes was the 8th most productive SS in baseball last year. Its worth looking into.

Ghosts of 1990 · 12-13-2010, 08:26 PM

This is what gives bloggers a bad name. Loses credibility. If you have something concrete and honest and you want to risk maybe making the club (and possibly your source) angry you run with it. But I can bet Fay (Mark Sheldon too) will never take anything serious again on "The Blog Red Machine".

I'd like to ask the blogger--who are these Reds "insiders" who have discussed the deal? I knew after reading sentence it was bogus. We could be the Reds insiders for all we know. Another Reds message board could be, etc. and so on.

Brutus · 12-13-2010, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghosts of 1990

This is what gives bloggers a bad name. Loses credibility. If you have something concrete and honest and you want to risk maybe making the club (and possibly your source) angry you run with it. But I can bet Fay (Mark Sheldon too) will never take anything serious again on "The Blog Red Machine".

I'd like to ask the blogger--who are these Reds "insiders" who have discussed the deal? I knew after reading sentence it was bogus. We could be the Reds insiders for all we know. Another Reds message board could be, etc. and so on.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. And I don't mean that personally, but bloggers are simply people with opinions, just like you. So they're no different from you or your site.

Maybe they know what they're talking about, maybe not. But you're not really in any position to judge that, as none of us are, since we don't know who they really are or who they know.

Blitz Dorsey · 12-14-2010, 12:18 AM

I would love this. And not just because the Reds would win the yearly Salsa-dancing contest. Forget about finding a LF that can be the leadoff hitter. Getting Reyes would fill two voids: Leadoff hitter and starting shortstop. (I am not ready to make Janish the starting SS, but I think he's a solid backup.)

Course, that still leaves a ? in LF, but if the Reds gets Reyes, I might have to throw a party.

12-13-2010, 05:46 PM	#1
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,663	Reds discussing Jose Reyes? Hat tip to the SunDeck: http://network.yardbarker.com/mlb/ar...h_mets/3778439 Not sure how credible this is given it's listed as a blog. Leake or Bailey, Cordero, and Kris Negron for Reyes? Yes, please. __________________ Go BLUE!!! Last edited by Benihana; 12-13-2010 at 05:50 PM.

12-13-2010, 06:04 PM	#2
JaxRed Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 9,266	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? I call BS on this.

12-13-2010, 06:05 PM	#3
Captain Hook Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: columbus,ohio Posts: 2,039	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? Best rumor of the offseason imo.Health and an expiring contract might be the only issues here.Other then that, Reyes leading off and playing SS makes the Reds a much better team.He will be, if healthy, one of the top SS in the game. I would have to imagine that the Mets could get some other teams interested if they're serious about dealing Reyes.I doubt any trade discussion with them will fly under the radar for too long if there's any truth to it.

12-13-2010, 06:16 PM	#5
GADawg Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 1,072	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? Terry Collins says 'ole Frankie is his 9th inning guy...i might believe it if it were 2 starters going their way

12-13-2010, 06:23 PM	#6
Edd Roush Two-Time Batting Champ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Loveland, OH Posts: 2,684	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? When I first saw this rumor on the SunDeck, I thought "awesome." However, I looked into the numbers, and just don't like what I see. He had a miserable 2010 with a .321 OBP in over 600 PAs. He can't take a walk and was injured for most of the 2009 season and his 2010 production showed a major drop off. He is making $11,000,000 next year and has had a negative UZR each of the last two years. I don't think I give up any of the young pitchers for Reyes and think I would rather use that hypothetical payroll space on Zach Greinke. I don't want the Reds to make a move for Jose Reyes.

12-13-2010, 06:27 PM	#7
thatcoolguy_22 Battle Toad Historian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pyeongtaek, ROK Posts: 1,659	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? Outside of whether Reyes is worth the trade or not, a trade could work for both teams. Someone on here posted a proposal involving Cordero + chaff for the Mets. That makes the money even for both. I just read on the Cairo thread the Reds could have anywhere from 4-10MM left to spend this offseason. A trade of prospects could work with NY chipping in some $$ to cover some of the contract. I doubt there is any truth to the rumor, but the Reds match up well with almost any team as a trade partner and they have some money to spend. However given the option, I'm with Edd in wanting Grienke over Reyes. __________________ A lil more east than most on this board.

12-13-2010, 06:27 PM	#8
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,947	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? If anyone wants to see me speak ill of a Jocketty transaction, this is it.

12-13-2010, 08:22 PM	#12
kaldaniels Viva la Rolen Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,409	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? Greinke > Reyes Reyes > Janish Going by WAR, Reyes was the 8th most productive SS in baseball last year. Its worth looking into.

12-13-2010, 08:26 PM	#13
Ghosts of 1990 The Future is Now Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 3,899	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? This is what gives bloggers a bad name. Loses credibility. If you have something concrete and honest and you want to risk maybe making the club (and possibly your source) angry you run with it. But I can bet Fay (Mark Sheldon too) will never take anything serious again on "The Blog Red Machine". I'd like to ask the blogger--who are these Reds "insiders" who have discussed the deal? I knew after reading sentence it was bogus. We could be the Reds insiders for all we know. Another Reds message board could be, etc. and so on. __________________ 2009 Attendance Record: 3-5 2010 Attendance Record: 2-9 2011 Attendance Record: 3-4 2012 Attendance Record: 3-4 2013 Attendance Record: 5-1

12-14-2010, 12:18 AM	#15
Blitz Dorsey Party like it's 1990 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,474	Re: Reds discussing Jose Reyes? I would love this. And not just because the Reds would win the yearly Salsa-dancing contest. Forget about finding a LF that can be the leadoff hitter. Getting Reyes would fill two voids: Leadoff hitter and starting shortstop. (I am not ready to make Janish the starting SS, but I think he's a solid backup.) Course, that still leaves a ? in LF, but if the Reds gets Reyes, I might have to throw a party.

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