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Old 01-06-2011, 02:36 PM   #1
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What the Renteria signing means for the SS depth

So with Renteria signed, that puts Janish on the bench and destines Zach Cozart for Louisville. The big question is, what will happen to Valakia and Negron? Does Valakia play second? Does he bounce around the infield? And if he doesn't play second, does Negron play there or is he going to go back to Carolina? And if he does, does Miguel Rojel move to second? And if so, what happens to Kahaleulo?

A lot of questions that I honestly don't know the answers to.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:50 PM   #2
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Re: What the Renteria signing means for the SS depth

In my eyes, one of these two scenarios is most likely:

Scenario 1:
Louisville
2B Chris Valaika
SS Zack Cozart
IF Kris Negron (or maybe Jake Kahaulelio instead with Negron playing 2B in Carolina)

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2B Jake Kahaulelio
SS Miguel Rojas
IF Jose Castro

Scenario 2:
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2B Chris Valaika
SS Zack Cozart
IF minor league free agent?

Carolina
2B Jake Kahaulelio
SS Kris Negron
IF Miguel Rojas
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:52 PM   #3
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Re: What the Renteria signing means for the SS depth

Yes. I prefer the latter though. BUT, I still like Puckett at second. Not sure how much he played there last year though.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:56 PM   #4
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Yes. I prefer the latter though. BUT, I still like Puckett at second. Not sure how much he played there last year though.
Oops. I forgot about Puckett. That complicates things. Carolina could really use a corner outfielder or two depending on what happens with Dave Cook and Kyle Day, so maybe that's where Puckett is slated.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:58 PM   #5
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Yea, who knows at this point. Hell, maybe the Reds don't even know lol
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:12 PM   #6
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Re: What the Renteria signing means for the SS depth

I thought Valaika had very little chance to make the Reds club. Now I'd guess he has next to none. Bench guys are likely to be Cairo, the 2nd catcher, Heisey, Janish, Hermida (or Alonso or Francisco).
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I thought Valaika had very little chance to make the Reds club. Now I'd guess he has next to none. Bench guys are likely to be Cairo, the 2nd catcher, Heisey, Janish, Hermida (or Alonso or Francisco).
Don't forget Gomes (presuming they will add a starting leadoff hitter/LF sometime before now and spring training).
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Don't forget Gomes (presuming they will add a starting leadoff hitter/LF sometime before now and spring training).
Hopefully Lewis and not Posednik. I'd rather let Stubbs, Phillips and Renteria fight it out for the lead off spot than sacrifice power in LF for the likes of SP (I'm not that thrilled about the prospect of Lewis either, for that matter).

I'm still holding out vain hope that Walt can pull off a deal for a bat with power or at least a better leadoff option like Ellsbury.

Does anyone know what Phillips OBP was prior to getting hit in the hand or Stubbs' was the last two or three months of the season?

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Old 01-09-2011, 06:49 PM   #9
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Hopefully Lewis and not Posednik. I'd rather let Stubbs, Phillips and Renteria fight it out for the lead off spot than sacrifice power in LF for the likes of SP (I'm not that thrilled about the prospect of Lewis either, for that matter).

I'm still holding out vain hope that Walt can pull off a deal for a bat with power or at least a better leadoff option like Ellsbury.

Does anyone know what Phillips OBP was prior to getting hit in the hand or Stubbs' was the last two or three months of the season?
I believe he got hit on the 25th of August against S.F. so up until that point his line was .290/.343/.458 for an OPS of .801 the bolded part being the OBP%.

Drew Stubbs July-October .275/.347/.500 for an OPS of .847.
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I believe he got hit on the 25th of August against S.F. so up until that point his line was .290/.343/.458 for an OPS of .801 the bolded part being the OBP%.

Drew Stubbs July-October .275/.347/.500 for an OPS of .847.
If both can come within 20 points of those obp, the Reds very well could score more runs this year than last. (And that's something I never thought I'd type.)
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