Reds will miss Rhodes and Cabrera

[Ron Madden]

So says John Fay in this article.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...will-be-missed

[traderumor]

John Fay has taken wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too seriously the adage about "newspaper articles should be written at a 3rd grade level."

[TRF]

the guys in the clubhouse will miss two guys they played with.

The Reds may not notice they are gone at all. I don't discount chemistry. I don't, however, attribute it to just two players. I don't believe for an instant that the team falls apart without them.

[The Operator]

Rhodes is on the wrong side of the age curve and Cabrera was replaced by a guy with a resume that includes just as much "knows how to win" and postseason experience, etc.

Me thinks Mr. Fay needed to make a deadline.

[Griffey012]

Fay said the Reds will miss the pair, he did not say they cannot be successful without him. It seems to me like Fay get nitpicked around here whenever he writes an article.

Did OCab and Rhodes play an important role in the clubhouse? Yes. Will those two be gone? Yes. So of course they will miss those two. He was dead on accurate as far as their season performance.

[mth123]

Originally Posted by Griffey012

Fay said the Reds will miss the pair, he did not say they cannot be successful without him. It seems to me like Fay get nitpicked around here whenever he writes an article.

Did OCab and Rhodes play an important role in the clubhouse? Yes. Will those two be gone? Yes. So of course they will miss those two. He was dead on accurate as far as their season performance.

Agree with every word.

[GAC]

From 4/10 to 6/29 last year (33 appearances), Rhodes didn't allow a run. Nice streak. He was so-so after the break. Don't care much about Stark's chemistry angle. What we may miss more from Rhodes is his 2.29 ERA, 1.02 Whip, and 26 Holds.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by Griffey012

Fay said the Reds will miss the pair, he did not say they cannot be successful without him. It seems to me like Fay get nitpicked around here whenever he writes an article.

Did OCab and Rhodes play an important role in the clubhouse? Yes. Will those two be gone? Yes. So of course they will miss those two. He was dead on accurate as far as their season performance.

Agree and I would add that if these guys were the clubhouse presences as described, then maybe things will not be that affected this year due to 2 things:

1) the arrival of Renteria, who Jocketty knows and hand picked as his 2011 Cabrera. If he wasn't able to fill that role, then I doubt he'd be here.

2) the winning season we just experienced. While a clubhouse guy can and will keep the clubhouse in check during the season, Cabrera and Rhodes also gav these guys a taste of "how to win", which they learned last year. Hopefully they won't need these presences as much this year. They still. Have Rolen, Arroyo and the reigning MVP.

Regarding Rhodes, I think they would likely be missing him even if he was resigned this season.

[TRF]

Originally Posted by Griffey012

Fay said the Reds will miss the pair, he did not say they cannot be successful without him. It seems to me like Fay get nitpicked around here whenever he writes an article.

Did OCab and Rhodes play an important role in the clubhouse? Yes. Will those two be gone? Yes. So of course they will miss those two. He was dead on accurate as far as their season performance.

That isn't the implication of the article at all. In this case "miss" means "hard to replace" and "it will hurt the teams success".

Otherwise there is no point to the article. His opinion is pretty clear.

[Griffey012]

Originally Posted by TRF

That isn't the implication of the article at all. In this case "miss" means "hard to replace" and "it will hurt the teams success".

Otherwise there is no point to the article. His opinion is pretty clear.

I honestly do not see the implication you are speaking of at all. It simply seems like an off-season article to pass the time.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by TRF

That isn't the implication of the article at all. In this case "miss" means "hard to replace" and "it will hurt the teams success".

Otherwise there is no point to the article. His opinion is pretty clear.

I think he is saying that they will be missed and the fallout could hurt the team's performance. But he also says that they added Renteria and that Jocketty often makes moves that keep in line with the team's chemistry.

[OesterPoster]

Originally Posted by traderumor

John Fay has taken wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too seriously the adage about "newspaper articles should be written at a 3rd grade level."

Actually, my Flesch-Kincaid analysis shows this article to be a 4.8 on the grade level readability scale. 3rd graders might have trouble with it.

[Wheelhouse]

Rhodes, yes. Cabrera, nooooooo.

[Jpup]

I think you guys should let up on Fay. I don't see much wrong with it. It's a blog post.

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by Jpup

I think you guys should let up on Fay. I don't see much wrong with it. It's a blog post.

It's an article. It does not appear on his blog. I think John's been twittering or texting too much, this article being evidence of that.