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Vottomatic · 05-31-2011, 08:29 AM

Another 2 walks by Joey last night and still batting .330 despite not getting anything to hit. Crazy idea or not? He can't hit HR's, doubles, or singles being pitched around. And Rolen is not getting it done.

Do you really think opposing pitchers want to walk him to start the inning or game?

New lineup:
Votto 1B (LH)
Phillips 2B (RH)
Bruce RF (LH)
Matt Kemp LF - gotta trade for this guy (RH)
Hernandez/Hanigan C (RH)
Stubbs CF (RH)
Rolen 3B (RH)
Janish/Renteria SS (RH)

Heisey K"s 3 times last night. Lewis batting .269. Gomes batting .194.

We need a legit LFer to spark this offense.

leeech86 · 05-31-2011, 09:56 AM

well...I think it's a good idea.

redsfan1995 · 05-31-2011, 10:01 AM

not in a million years would they do that

CySeymour · 05-31-2011, 10:18 AM

Good post, Vottomatic.

I've actually been wondering why not hit him second at least.

Vottomatic · 05-31-2011, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfan1995

not in a million years would they do that

Sure they won't. Centerfielder always bats first on Dusty's teams.

Seriously. When they tried to get Bruce going a few times, they batted him first to get him some good pitches. EXACT SAME PHILOSOPHY.

bshall2105 · 05-31-2011, 05:12 PM

It worked for Evan Longoria.

kfm · 05-31-2011, 05:48 PM

I'd rather bring up Alonso and bat him leadoff.

Nathan · 06-01-2011, 12:30 AM

What's the big deal about lineup construction? It's only guaranteed to work the way you want it to for the first inning when you get your 1-2-3 guys up.. After that, anything goes.

lonewolf371 · 06-01-2011, 12:32 AM

Please don't do this.

Spaxspore · 06-01-2011, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vottomatic

Heisey K"s 3 times last night. Lewis batting .269. Gomes batting .194.

We need a legit LFer to spark this offense.

Nah, I would rather have a SS who can FIELD and HIT... we have neither

PS.
Why did they sign edgar when he can only play one position.....

06-01-2011, 12:34 PM

It's a great idea if you want him to hit without runners on base

Natty Redlocks · 06-01-2011, 12:39 PM

Ooh yeah and bat the pitcher 8th, it'll be jeenyus

Magdal · 06-06-2011, 05:42 PM

It's not as bad an idea as it seems to be. But I go for batting him 2nd. Bruce 3rd. The higher up, the more ABs. and late in the game with the 8th and 9th hitters being pinch hit for, there WILL be men on base for Votto.

He is being neutralized....something has to be done. Now, of course if Bruce continues to rake, it's all moot. But they WILL get more ABs if moved up a notch.

Vottomatic · 06-06-2011, 07:04 PM

Hitting in front of Bruce (4-hole) was working well and Krusty goes and moves Rolen back to the 4-hole. Go figure that one out.

ntorvik · 06-06-2011, 10:54 PM

I think we need Votto's bat to drive in runs, which would be the only real issue there. Votto has some speed on the basepaths, but not the kind that a lot of people look for in a leadoff hitter, which is where that problem would come in.

05-31-2011, 08:29 AM	#1
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,974	Bat Joey Votto leadoff Another 2 walks by Joey last night and still batting .330 despite not getting anything to hit. Crazy idea or not? He can't hit HR's, doubles, or singles being pitched around. And Rolen is not getting it done. Do you really think opposing pitchers want to walk him to start the inning or game? New lineup: Votto 1B (LH) Phillips 2B (RH) Bruce RF (LH) Matt Kemp LF - gotta trade for this guy (RH) Hernandez/Hanigan C (RH) Stubbs CF (RH) Rolen 3B (RH) Janish/Renteria SS (RH) Heisey K"s 3 times last night. Lewis batting .269. Gomes batting .194. We need a legit LFer to spark this offense. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

05-31-2011, 09:56 AM	#2
leeech86 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 57	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff well...I think it's a good idea.

05-31-2011, 10:01 AM	#3
redsfan1995 Moderator Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 161	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff not in a million years would they do that

05-31-2011, 10:18 AM	#4
CySeymour .377 in 1905 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 1,537	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff Good post, Vottomatic. I've actually been wondering why not hit him second at least. __________________ ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

05-31-2011, 05:12 PM	#6
bshall2105 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana Posts: 860	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff It worked for Evan Longoria.

05-31-2011, 05:48 PM	#7
kfm Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 579	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff I'd rather bring up Alonso and bat him leadoff.

06-01-2011, 12:30 AM	#8
Nathan 2013 W.S. Champions Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hamilton, Ohio Posts: 401	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff What's the big deal about lineup construction? It's only guaranteed to work the way you want it to for the first inning when you get your 1-2-3 guys up.. After that, anything goes. __________________ "It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." I'm not a man of many words. Read my posts, and you'll see what I mean. Some people are Optimists (They see the glass 1/2 full). Others are Pessimists (They see the glass 1/2 empty). Me, I'm a Realist. 1/2 empty IS 1/2 full.

06-01-2011, 12:32 AM	#9
lonewolf371 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 369	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff Please don't do this.

06-01-2011, 12:34 PM	#11
BAKER12 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff It's a great idea if you want him to hit without runners on base

06-01-2011, 12:39 PM	#12
Natty Redlocks Recovering Cubs Fan Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 711	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff Ooh yeah and bat the pitcher 8th, it'll be jeenyus __________________ FIRE DUSTY Never mind. The man is clearly a genius.

06-06-2011, 05:42 PM	#13
Magdal Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tn. Posts: 910	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff It's not as bad an idea as it seems to be. But I go for batting him 2nd. Bruce 3rd. The higher up, the more ABs. and late in the game with the 8th and 9th hitters being pinch hit for, there WILL be men on base for Votto. He is being neutralized....something has to be done. Now, of course if Bruce continues to rake, it's all moot. But they WILL get more ABs if moved up a notch.

06-06-2011, 07:04 PM	#14
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,974	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff Hitting in front of Bruce (4-hole) was working well and Krusty goes and moves Rolen back to the 4-hole. Go figure that one out. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

06-06-2011, 10:54 PM	#15
ntorvik Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 60	Re: Bat Joey Votto leadoff I think we need Votto's bat to drive in runs, which would be the only real issue there. Votto has some speed on the basepaths, but not the kind that a lot of people look for in a leadoff hitter, which is where that problem would come in.

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