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BluegrassRedleg · 06-12-2011, 11:13 PM

Four well-pitched games in SF. 2-2 versus a team with a AAA lineup.

Highway to 81-81 rolls on.

This team needs help on BOTH ends. Come on, Walt! SOS!

Jefferson24 · 06-12-2011, 11:48 PM

Make a trade! The Reds value their players too much, nothing I have seen so far says "don't trade me, I'm an all star or soon will be". Make a move already.

40YrRedsFan · 06-12-2011, 11:48 PM

I'm not going to get pumped up about our pitching in this series...we were facing a very POOR Giants offense. We'll see what happens in L.A. We get Kuroda, Kershaw, and Billingsley the next three games. If our pitching can't hold down the Dodgers, we will have another west coast nightmare. I don't see us scoring much in L.A.

Jefferson24 · 06-12-2011, 11:51 PM

Reyes might have made a big difference this series. Trade for him if you can sign him to an extension, it would be worth it.

Spaxspore · 06-13-2011, 12:30 AM

cant afford him... why rent a player for 3 months and no guarantee that the team will make the post season. We have plenty of talent for cheap; that talent is in AAA. Make a move, any move for SS is an upgrade in what we are getting ATM.

Kingspoint · 06-13-2011, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BluegrassRedleg

Four well-pitched games in SF. 2-2 versus a team with a AAA lineup.

Highway to 81-81 rolls on.

This team needs help on BOTH ends. Come on, Walt! SOS!

There's two parts to pitching.....Starters and Bullpen.

The Starters did their job. The Bullpen pitched poorly.

There needs to be a Veteran Reliever to take the place of one of the youngsters like Fisher.

izzy's dad · 06-13-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spaxspore

cant afford him... why rent a player for 3 months and no guarantee that the team will make the post season. We have plenty of talent for cheap; that talent is in AAA. Make a move, any move for SS is an upgrade in what we are getting ATM.

Agreed. Cozart, Alonso, Mesoraco would be cheaper alternatives then what we have now, and couldn't produce any less than what we are rolling out there on a daily basis. Reyes would cost way too much, and he WILL NOT SIGN IN CINCY, even if we found the money somewhere.

Vottomatic · 06-13-2011, 08:17 AM

Yeah, Dusty and management can be really hardheaded at times. As a fan, it gets old.

UPRedsFan · 06-13-2011, 10:34 AM

Clearly there is no good answer in left field right now. Fred Lewis is a disappointment. Not hitting to his career norms. Bring up Alonso and platoon him with Heisey or make a trade

ntorvik · 06-13-2011, 10:44 AM

Need a shortstop, period. This team needs to act like it wants to compete in the playoffs, not just get there. Sack up and get a big-time SS.

bounty37h · 06-13-2011, 10:47 AM

The right side of our team is fine/great, our left side needs a complete overhaul-ss, 3rd, and LF are all glaring weaknesses on this team.

BluegrassRedleg · 06-13-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ntorvik

Need a shortstop, period. This team needs to act like it wants to compete in the playoffs, not just get there. Sack up and get a big-time SS.

I can live with Janish, provided you have a quality bat at LF and 3B. But you're getting nothing out of those other two traditional offensive positions, it really hurts. The Reds have been playing with a four- or five-man lineup most of the season. It's amazing because those five guys have been responsible for a lot of runs.

DGullett35 · 06-13-2011, 03:32 PM

Baser running didn't help last night but the bullpen is what really cost us..IMO this team misses Arthur Rhodes. He was really good last year in situations like bray's last night

lonewolf371 · 06-13-2011, 04:32 PM

The funny thing is that most of us would have been happy with splitting this series before it started.

brm7675 · 06-13-2011, 05:00 PM

I am unsure how anyone can be upset with the pitching in the four game SF series. Look at what happen last year on our visit to SF and how we did this year. The Reds would have swept this series had the bats not fallen asleep in two games and stupid baserunning been involved, pitching was not the problem in SF.

06-12-2011, 11:13 PM	#1
BluegrassRedleg Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Richmond, KY Posts: 968	So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument Four well-pitched games in SF. 2-2 versus a team with a AAA lineup. Highway to 81-81 rolls on. This team needs help on BOTH ends. Come on, Walt! SOS! __________________ Rounding third and heading for home...

06-12-2011, 11:48 PM	#2
Jefferson24 Plan to be spontaneous Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinios Posts: 1,178	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument Make a trade! The Reds value their players too much, nothing I have seen so far says "don't trade me, I'm an all star or soon will be". Make a move already. __________________ We only live in patches. - H. G. Wells

06-12-2011, 11:48 PM	#3
40YrRedsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Big Bear City, CA Posts: 360	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument I'm not going to get pumped up about our pitching in this series...we were facing a very POOR Giants offense. We'll see what happens in L.A. We get Kuroda, Kershaw, and Billingsley the next three games. If our pitching can't hold down the Dodgers, we will have another west coast nightmare. I don't see us scoring much in L.A.

06-12-2011, 11:51 PM	#4
Jefferson24 Plan to be spontaneous Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinios Posts: 1,178	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument Reyes might have made a big difference this series. Trade for him if you can sign him to an extension, it would be worth it. __________________ We only live in patches. - H. G. Wells

06-13-2011, 12:30 AM	#5
Spaxspore Lets Party Like it's 1869 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Xenia OHIO Posts: 64	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument cant afford him... why rent a player for 3 months and no guarantee that the team will make the post season. We have plenty of talent for cheap; that talent is in AAA. Make a move, any move for SS is an upgrade in what we are getting ATM.

06-13-2011, 08:17 AM	#8
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,759	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument Yeah, Dusty and management can be really hardheaded at times. As a fan, it gets old. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

06-13-2011, 10:34 AM	#9
UPRedsFan Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 818	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument Clearly there is no good answer in left field right now. Fred Lewis is a disappointment. Not hitting to his career norms. Bring up Alonso and platoon him with Heisey or make a trade

06-13-2011, 10:44 AM	#10
ntorvik Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 60	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument Need a shortstop, period. This team needs to act like it wants to compete in the playoffs, not just get there. Sack up and get a big-time SS.

06-13-2011, 10:47 AM	#11
bounty37h Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chapel Hill NC Posts: 3,076	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument The right side of our team is fine/great, our left side needs a complete overhaul-ss, 3rd, and LF are all glaring weaknesses on this team. __________________ UNC Tar Heels 2009 National Champions 5 time NCAA Champs 57, 82, 93, 05, 09 Go Heels!!!!!

06-13-2011, 03:32 PM	#13
DGullett35 Have Faith In Dusty Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: O-H-I-O Posts: 712	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument Baser running didn't help last night but the bullpen is what really cost us..IMO this team misses Arthur Rhodes. He was really good last year in situations like bray's last night

06-13-2011, 04:32 PM	#14
lonewolf371 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 369	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument The funny thing is that most of us would have been happy with splitting this series before it started.

06-13-2011, 05:00 PM	#15
brm7675 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,666	Re: So much for the "It's just a matter of pitching" argument I am unsure how anyone can be upset with the pitching in the four game SF series. Look at what happen last year on our visit to SF and how we did this year. The Reds would have swept this series had the bats not fallen asleep in two games and stupid baserunning been involved, pitching was not the problem in SF.

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