College Football Realignment

[WVRed]

Looks like the MWC is trying to convince TCU to stay. They might be better off doing so now.

[dabvu2498]

Here's an interesting way of looking at college football realignment.

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ignment-chaos/

[IslandRed]

That's an interesting attempt at quantifying things, and I usually like Nate Silver's work. But some of the actual results strain credulity, particularly after it gets past the SEC and Big Ten.

[Chip R]

In the midst of all this realingment, I found an article in the Atlantic Monthly about how the writer feels that the NCAA should disband since it is no longer serving its purpose due to the scandals. It's a long read so be prepared.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...e-sports/8643/

[wolfboy]

Originally Posted by Chip R

In the midst of all this realingment, I found an article in the Atlantic Monthly about how the writer feels that the NCAA should disband since it is no longer serving its purpose due to the scandals. It's a long read so be prepared.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...e-sports/8643/

I saw that last week. Great read.

[Reds Freak]

Originally Posted by Chip R

In the midst of all this realingment, I found an article in the Atlantic Monthly about how the writer feels that the NCAA should disband since it is no longer serving its purpose due to the scandals. It's a long read so be prepared.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...e-sports/8643/

Very interesting read, but I don't agree. 90% of the news is 10% of the problems. When we say "college athletics" most people think college football and men's college basketball. You have to remember college athletics includes the softball team, the cross country team, the tennis team, etc. I still think college athletics are extremely beneficial as an educational experience for the athletes athletes and a community experience for the universities. What about the great things going on in college sports? When do we ever hear about those?

[Caveat Emperor]

Originally Posted by Reds Freak

Very interesting read, but I don't agree. 90% of the news is 10% of the problems. When we say "college athletics" most people think college football and men's college basketball. You have to remember college athletics includes the softball team, the cross country team, the tennis team, etc. I still think college athletics are extremely beneficial as an educational experience for the athletes athletes and a community experience for the universities. What about the great things going on in college sports? When do we ever hear about those?

Honestly? Because other than the parents of those people involved, no one cares. If people cared, they'd be monetized and become part of the problem.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor

Word swirling around twitterverse, apparently started by a source at BearcatLair, that WVU's inquiries have been rejected by the SEC.

I've heard that WVU has been turned own by both the SEC and the ACC. Also Mizzou has an offer to the SEC.

[KronoRed]

Seems to me, Missouri is waiting and hoping for a Big10 invite, failing that they can support Oklahoma in keeping the big12 together or go to the SEC.

WVU is the backup plan for the SEC.

[Slyder]

Originally Posted by jojo

I've heard that WVU has been turned own by both the SEC and the ACC. Also Mizzou has an offer to the SEC.

SEC came out and said no offer has been given to anyone but Texas A&M. They did not say "No" they said "Not now" just like they did back in August with A&M. At this point I don't care what the blue bloods from the east say they're garbage to me and regardless of how this goes I don't want another thing to do with that bunch of filth (Not Pitt, Not Maryland, Not Cuse, not ANY of them). If WVU is forced to join because its the only option I might have to turn to some combination of Marshall, ECU, USF, Louisville regional games for my football fix because I will not subject myself to the North Carolina Mafia garbage football style.

Missouri tried to float out there they had an invite in hopes that it would stir the big 10 (which is where they want to go). So far hasn't worked.

[marcshoe]

I'm starting to get the idea that there's less than meets the eye to most of the invites/applications/rejections. I think the next step may be for the SEC to add one team (Missouri maybe, maybe not) and then more dominoes will fall. Not the time for WVU to panic yet.

Honestly, even if they do end up in some Frankenstein's conference made from the leftovers, it's not the end of the world. Sometimes (and this may be a good reminder) it's good to remember that the main focus of a school should be academics. Still looking at doctoral programs now, and the three schools I'm focusing on are WVU and two SEC schools. Gotta say I'm not all that focused on how the football stuff falls together at the moment. Interested, but not focused.

[WVRed]

Originally Posted by Slyder

SEC came out and said no offer has been given to anyone but Texas A&M. They did not say "No" they said "Not now" just like they did back in August with A&M. At this point I don't care what the blue bloods from the east say they're garbage to me and regardless of how this goes I don't want another thing to do with that bunch of filth (Not Pitt, Not Maryland, Not Cuse, not ANY of them). If WVU is forced to join because its the only option I might have to turn to some combination of Marshall, ECU, USF, Louisville regional games for my football fix because I will not subject myself to the North Carolina Mafia garbage football style.

Missouri tried to float out there they had an invite in hopes that it would stir the big 10 (which is where they want to go). So far hasn't worked.

This.

If Missouri ends up being no 14, then I think WVU will be 15 or 16 once the conference expands again. I see the SEC going to 16 teams and WVU will be a part of it because there really won't be many other options.

F$U, Georgia Tech, and Clemson face enormous buyouts and are already in states that have a SEC school. Louisville doesn't have the buyout but UK will fight it and if rumors are true, UK is part of the agreement with South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida to keep schools from their own states out of the conference.

[Slyder]

Originally Posted by tixe

I'm starting to get the idea that there's less than meets the eye to most of the invites/applications/rejections. I think the next step may be for the SEC to add one team (Missouri maybe, maybe not) and then more dominoes will fall. Not the time for WVU to panic yet.

Honestly, even if they do end up in some Frankenstein's conference made from the leftovers, it's not the end of the world. Sometimes (and this may be a good reminder) it's good to remember that the main focus of a school should be academics. Still looking at doctoral programs now, and the three schools I'm focusing on are WVU and two SEC schools. Gotta say I'm not all that focused on how the football stuff falls together at the moment. Interested, but not focused.

The Academic side got thrown in the gutter a LONG time ago.Its a convenient excuse for people.

[WVRed]

Something that does concern me with Missouri to the SEC and the only person I know who could possibly weigh in would be MikeTheirry or any other Cardinal fan on here:

The biggest draw for the SEC is the media market in St Louis and Kansas City, but from some of what I've read, pro sports (Cardinals, Rams, Blues, Chiefs) dominate in Missouri. With WVU you wouldn't have to worry about fan support as WVU would pack Mountaineer Field (especially a SEC team). I just wonder how well it would work in Columbia.

[Slyder]

Originally Posted by WVRed

Something that does concern me with Missouri to the SEC and the only person I know who could possibly weigh in would be MikeTheirry or any other Cardinal fan on here:

The biggest draw for the SEC is the media market in St Louis and Kansas City, but from some of what I've read, pro sports (Cardinals, Rams, Blues, Chiefs) dominate in Missouri. With WVU you wouldn't have to worry about fan support as WVU would pack Mountaineer Field (especially a SEC team). I just wonder how well it would work in Columbia.

I was just talking with a friend and Missouri seems to go against about EVERYTHING the SEC has built. 1) SEC brand is what it puts on the field (when was the last time Missouri was relevant in football longer than a blink of the eye). 2) SEC doesn't really have markets. 3) Its more about the experience and the tradition AT the game rather than just watching it on tv.