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Old 10-18-2011, 11:03 AM   #586
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New QB
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#85 traded
1 1st round pick and possibly another 1st round pick

thats what Palmer "retiring" got the Bengals
How did Palmer get a new OC and Chad traded?
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:05 AM   #587
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How did Palmer get a new OC and Chad traded?
Brat and #85 would still be here if Palmer was here.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:06 AM   #588
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Brat and #85 would still be here if Palmer was here.
Based on what? Link?
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:09 AM   #589
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Unbelievable. This is actually a franchise that is making all of the right moves. And I don't know what in the world Oakland is thinking. One of the biggest desperation moves of all time. I don't think this move even helps them that much.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:10 AM   #590
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New QB
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#85 traded
1 1st round pick and possibly another 1st round pick

thats what Palmer "retiring" got the Bengals
I think you can basically say Marvin is a newly refreshed head coach with more powers now.

I am optimistic about the rest of the season this year but realize that any more success from here on out is a positive thing. From where we were just 2 months ago this season has been an overwhelming success. Dalton looks like the real deal, Green looks like a great WR, the defense is playing awesome, they aren't showing up unmotivated for games, and most importantly are improving each game.

The 2012 draft just got a whole lot more interesting as well. Its scary to say that the Bengals are building a team the way your supposed to build a team. They are starting to look like an organization who has a clue.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:10 AM   #591
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Re: 2011 Bengals Discussion

Since 2008, Jason Campbell is 23-27 with a QB rating of 85.0. Palmer is 14-22 with a 81.4 QB rating.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:11 AM   #592
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Is there any reason for Oakland to show up for the draft in April? They are really desperate if they're willing to deal this lonely pick seeing as how they'd already traded away so many others
They're set to get some pretty high comp picks for lost FAs.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:13 AM   #593
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They're set to get some pretty high comp picks for lost FAs.
The highest possible comp pick is a 3rd/4th rd sandwich one, but we'll see
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:16 AM   #594
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Re: 2011 Bengals Discussion

Hypothetical question:

Would this trade have happened if the Bengals were 0-6 and Dalton was struggling?

(Even though it still would have been the right thing to do.)
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:19 AM   #595
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Hypothetical question:

Would this trade have happened if the Bengals were 0-6 and Dalton was struggling?

(Even though it still would have been the right thing to do.)
It wouldn't have happened if a relevant team didn't lose their starting QB and got desperate.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:26 AM   #596
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Re: 2011 Bengals Discussion

Oakland heads into Cincinnati next season. Think the boo birds will be out for that game?
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:28 AM   #597
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Since 2008, Jason Campbell is 23-27 with a QB rating of 85.0. Palmer is 14-22 with a 81.4 QB rating.
It seems you're suggesting Oakland overpaid? lol
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:30 AM   #598
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Re: 2011 Bengals Discussion

If this trade actually happens as reported, (1st round 2012, conditional 1st round 2013 - and reportedly the conditions are very attainable) then we have to give some credit to Brown for setting the stage for this possibility. What an unbelievable haul! Boomer, under similar circumstances (declining production, questions about arm) was only traded for a 3rd round pick - and he was a former MVP that led the Bengals to a Super Bowl.

I wouldn't have traded Palmer for anything less than a first rounder or maybe two 2nd rounders; but I never imagined the likelihood of two first round picks. Gotta love it.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:42 AM   #599
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Since 2008, Jason Campbell is 23-27 with a QB rating of 85.0. Palmer is 14-22 with a 81.4 QB rating.
While Oakland was busy playing the dominant forces known as the Broncos, Chiefs and Changers (they are pretty good) the Bengals were playing pushovers known as the Steelers and Ravens (Browns don't count).

I think Carson is a better QB than Campbell but also think his glory days are well behind him. Its fair to question his arm strength, lack of mobility, and leadership skills.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:04 PM   #600
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next years 2nd rounder becomes a 1st rounder if the Raiders win a playoff game this season according to Chris Mortenson.
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