8.8.11 Rockies @ Reds

[CrackerJack]

Originally Posted by kaldaniels

Heisey may not have gotten a full audition in the outfield, but he certainly has had his opportunities. But unfortunately, if Sappelt wows us, Heisey may very well be the forgotten man.

- just a thought that crept into my mind just now

Fine w/that, like Sappelt much more so. Heisey is another trade piece IMO, along with those mentioned above. Too many over-valued prospects/young guys on this team, turn a few of them into a better player, construct a better team, this team is dysfunctional and poorly constructed.

[Captain Hook]

I've seen BP make that play a 1000 times in a row.

[WVRedsFan]

Paul Janish is a AAA player IMHO. Frazier should be at third and Cairo at second.

[WVRedsFan]

This game is ovah...

[Red in Chicago]

Betancourt overmatched the reds in the 8th inning. K's the side.

[OldXOhio]

Originally Posted by redsfaninbsg

Apathetic. Is that a good word to sum up the Reds fan base currently? 7th inning of a one run game in early August and we have two pages on the game thread.

This team earned every bit of it.

[WVRedsFan]

Anyone think Masset can't take pressure when the game is on the line? Seems to be pitching well tonight. And he just gave up a hit. Never mind.

[WVRedsFan]

On to the 9th, down 10-7. If they come back, I will eat my hat. Apparently no one really cares.

[WVRedsFan]

With Pittsburgh up 5-0, our time in 3rd place was short-lived.

[redsfaninbsg]

Reds score seven and lose, fans sit through 90 minute rain delay, and Joey Votto gets one at bat. Fun night........

[mbgrayson]

We have got to do something about the bullpen.

Bray gives up a 2 run dinger to CarGo, the first homer Bray has given up all year.

Then we get Masset for the 9th, pitching badly again, gives up another run.

This bullpen needs a transfusion, and so does the starting staff. It hurt us tonight to have to use LeCure early because of the rain delay.

But the bullpen was the difference in this game. In the 8th and 9th, the Rockies, Betancourt and Street, shut the Reds down completely. Bray and Masset gave up 3 runs....

[WVRedsFan]

Originally Posted by redsfaninbsg

Reds score seven and lose, fans sit through 90 minute rain delay, and Joey Votto gets one at bat. Fun night........

Pretty obvious. When Votto is your offense, why pitch to him. A club that, according to Walt, was based on pitching and defense, the pitching part has failed and the lack of hitters has killed them. And no relief in sight when you roll out Fred Lewis and Paul Janish as starters. Too much reliance on unproven pitchers and the failure of Bruce and the injury to Rolen plus the lack of moves.

Just sux big time.

[Ron Madden]

Originally Posted by mbgrayson

We have got to do something about the bullpen.

Bray gives up a 2 run dinger to CarGo, the first homer Bray has given up all year.

Then we get Masset for the 9th, pitching badly again, gives up another run.

This bullpen needs a transfusion, and so does the starting staff. It hurt us tonight to have to use LeCure early because of the rain delay.

But the bullpen was the difference in this game. In the 8th and 9th, the Rockies, Betancourt and Street, shut the Reds down completely. Bray and Masset gave up 3 runs....

IMHO this bullpen is worn out from over-use due to the lack of innings turned in by the starting staff and from the poor bullpen management of Dusty Baker.

[Ron Madden]

Originally Posted by WVRedsFan

Pretty obvious. When Votto is your offense, why pitch to him. A club that, according to Walt, was based on pitching and defense, the pitching part has failed and the lack of hitters has killed them. And no relief in sight when you roll out Fred Lewis and Paul Janish as starters. Too much reliance on unproven pitchers and the failure of Bruce and the injury to Rolen plus the lack of moves.

Just sux big time.

They scored 7 runs tonight.

[cumberlandreds]

Originally Posted by Ron Madden

IMHO this bullpen is worn out from over-use due to the lack of innings turned in by the starting staff and from the poor bullpen management of Dusty Baker.

Totally agree. The bottom line is that your starters have to average 7 to 8 innings. I would suspect the Reds average is more like six. That wears a bullpen down over the course of the season. You can't trot 3 or 4 relievers out there every night and expect them to be good all season.