Fire Dusty, Hire Rick Sweet

[Redlegs]

I think Dusty should be canned. He's supposed to be a motivator, but nobody looks motivated. Maybe it's time Rick Sweet gets a shot at managing at the MLB level. The kids we're getting from Louisville look more fundamentaly sound than the guys we got.

Dusty has turned me off with the way he's handled Yonder Alonso. We're out of the race. Put him out there and let him play. Period.

[westofyou]

Dave Miley 2.0

[Redlegs]

The talent on this team is far superior than anything Miley had to work with. I think Sweet deserves a shot.

[WVRed]

Originally Posted by westofyou

Dave Miley 2.0

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Originally Posted by Redlegs

The talent on this team is far superior than anything Miley had to work with. I think Sweet deserves a shot.

I'm pretty sure that Rick Sweet WILL get his shot. But not yet. Dusty will finish out his contract...maybe even an extension. But eventually, Sweet will get his due.

The last thing I want to see is another revolving door in the manager's office. Some stability there is a good thing.

[reds1869]

Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

I'm pretty sure that Rick Sweet WILL get his shot. But not yet. Dusty will finish out his contract...maybe even an extension. But eventually, Sweet will get his due.

The last thing I want to see is another revolving door in the manager's office. Some stability there is a good thing.

I've come around to that line of thinking, too. I think Dusty has done pretty terribly this year but I don't think a revolving door is the answer. After all only last year we were singing the man's praises. Winning cures all and if the roster flaws are improved this team will win next year.

[Always Red]

I want to see some continuity, both in the dugout and in the FO. That's how winning organizations are built, through years of vision and sticking to that vision and plan, not by changing all the bosses and parts and pieces every few years.

[Roy Tucker]

Dusty is a player's manager and manages by relationships. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Duagherty made a good comment saying that Dusty's lieutentants of Arthur Rhodes and Orlando Cabrera aren't here any more to re-enforce Dusty's messages. And Rolen is on the DL too much now.

Sometimes I think Dusty cares too much about his players and isn't ruthless enough. But you have to pick your poison sometimes. I'd like to see Dusty stay on another year. Use this year as a learning exercise.

[TRF]

How about Walt Gets Dusty a LF, SS, 3B, 3 starting pitchers, one of them an ace please, and a leadoff hitter.

last time I checked, Dusty doesn't play a position or pitch.

[Guacarock]

I'd like to see Joe Morgan managing the Reds -- someone who would be a "players' advocate," like Dusty, but has a broader grasp of the game's nuances and strategies.

I expect the Reds, though, will stay with Dusty through at least the first few months of 2012, although you never can tell. Jocketty plays his cards close to the vest, and the Reds have not just disappointed this season, they have looked downright lost and listless for awhile now.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Guacarock

I'd like to see Joe Morgan managing the Reds -- someone who would be a "players' advocate," like Dusty, but has a broader grasp of the game's nuances and strategies.

I expect the Reds, though, will stay with Dusty through at least the first few months of 2012, although you never can tell. Jocketty plays his cards close to the vest, and the Reds have not just disappointed this season, they have looked downright lost and listless for awhile now.

I don't want Joe Morgan anywhere near this baseball team. His honorary role right now is enough to make me worry.

[Guacarock]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

I don't want Joe Morgan anywhere near this baseball team. His honorary role right now is enough to make me worry.

OK. Any particular reason why?

[Caveat Emperor]

Originally Posted by westofyou

Dave Miley 2.0

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Amazing how every bit of baseball acumen has apparently, in the minds of so many fans, deserted Dusty Baker in the span of 12 months.

Beloved in 2010, reviled in 2011 -- this city loves to eat it's own.

[Raisor]

Originally Posted by Guacarock

I'd like to see Joe Morgan managing the Reds -- someone who would be a "players' advocate," like Dusty, but has a broader grasp of the game's nuances and strategies.

.

Let Morgan take the Ryne Sandberg route and work in AAA for a few years.

Then let another team make him their manager.

Then he can come back and manage the Reds.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor

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Amazing how every bit of baseball acumen has apparently, in the minds of so many fans, deserted Dusty Baker in the span of 12 months.

Beloved in 2010, reviled in 2011 -- this city loves to eat it's own.

To be fair.... I didn't like Dusty in 2010 either.

I also don't believe for a second that any of us know enough about any managerial candidates to say we want them in here. I know that before I would say "oh yes, I really want that guy to manage my ballclub" that I would like to know answers to about 15-20 questions that I simply don't have the ability to ask any of those guys. I just know that from Dusty's actions, he doesn't agree with me on how to run a baseball team and I don't want him doing that for the team I root for.