Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

George Foster · 08-22-2011, 08:54 PM

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...-and-adam-dunn

Boston Red · 08-23-2011, 01:53 AM

There are no great articles on Grantland. Bill Simmons should be shot for foisting that garbage on us.

Vottomatic · 08-23-2011, 08:50 AM

The article was pretty much spot on. If Dunn had any respect for the game, he'd just retire.

Mutaman · 08-24-2011, 02:20 AM

Are any of those folks who argued that Dunn was a hall of famer still around?

Pete4prez · 08-24-2011, 11:14 AM

For the most part, I thought the article was accurate.

Roush's socks · 08-24-2011, 12:21 PM

Dunn's decline is a strange case because he had been SO consistent over previous seasons, we all projected that he would keep up those numbers with a slow gradual decline. What has happened can only be explained as:
1. He "got old" over night. This happens in all sports where a player over 30 who has got some miles on the odometer just loses whatever athleticism that was keeping them competitive.
2. It could be more of a mental thing, compounded by switching leagues and struggling with AL pitching. Just like Tiger Woods problems are largely mental, it could be that Dunn is just in a major funk. Being a DH could be a factor. Maybe playing the OF helped keep him sharp.
3. You also have to consider maybe a more chemical explanation that could involve you know whats. I'm not saying there is any evidence, only that in this day and age you always have to consider it.

All in all I wouldn't be surprised to see Dunn make a comeback next year under the right circumstances.

jwmann2 · 08-25-2011, 03:05 PM

Dunn hasn't adjusted to being a DH. Its gotta be different. He needs to step up the cardio and get in the weight room. Couldn't hurt. Could him the confidence he needs to become great again.
Kearns was just a good baseball player. Like Jeff Franceour, nothing flashy about his game, not yet a journeyman but knows how to play the game of baseball.

bounty37h · 08-25-2011, 03:25 PM

That would imply that Kearns was ever near the top to actually fall from somewhere? I would say it was more like he just rolled over, not an actual fall.

Vottomatic · 08-25-2011, 03:46 PM

Kearns had the talent. He didn't have the drive to be a great, or even good baseball player.

What a waste.

texasdave · 08-25-2011, 04:04 PM

Kearns was also a little snake-bitten.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...-kearns-career

CrosleyField · 08-28-2011, 07:55 AM

What Kearns and Lopez have done after the trade should be some vindication for Krivsky.

SidneySlicker · 08-28-2011, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwmann2

Dunn hasn't adjusted to being a DH. Its gotta be different. He needs to step up the cardio and get in the weight room. Couldn't hurt. Could him the confidence he needs to become great again.
Kearns was just a good baseball player. Like Jeff Franceour, nothing flashy about his game, not yet a journeyman but knows how to play the game of baseball.

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jwmann2 · 08-28-2011, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SidneySlicker

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What's so funny Bub? You don't think Dunn is great? The guy hits 40+ home runs every single year, automatic. So what if he strikes out a lot? He's paid to hit home runs. Millions.

takealeake · 08-28-2011, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwmann2

What's so funny Bub? You don't think Dunn is great? The guy hits 40+ home runs every single year, automatic. So what if he strikes out a lot? He's paid to hit home runs. Millions.

Not anymore.

I think his fall off has to do with all the stuff that people were saying over, and over, and over again when he was here. Lazy. No work ethic. No motor to improve or adapt his game. Damn, I just saw his picture, but he looks like he put on about 20-30 lbs since his time here.

People would bash Marty over what he would say about Dunn, but it was all proven right. Maybe he got by on those years here by a friendly homerun park and being relatively young, but it's all come crashing down since then. If you don't put any effort in to adapt and hone your craft, and get better this is what happens.

powersackers · 08-30-2011, 10:15 AM

Dunn benched for the rest of the year basically:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story...e-sox-too-long

It is the work ethic that did him in. Only an offseason program with tons of conditioning will get the Sox their 56M dollars worth. I'm actually rooting for him.

08-22-2011, 08:54 PM	#1
George Foster 1st pick 2022 B.B. draft Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ky Posts: 5,851	Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...-and-adam-dunn __________________ We got this...its our year....

08-23-2011, 01:53 AM	#2
Boston Red Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Braintree, MA Posts: 1,945	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn There are no great articles on Grantland. Bill Simmons should be shot for foisting that garbage on us.

08-23-2011, 08:50 AM	#3
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,787	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn The article was pretty much spot on. If Dunn had any respect for the game, he'd just retire. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

08-24-2011, 02:20 AM	#4
Mutaman Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,886	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn Are any of those folks who argued that Dunn was a hall of famer still around?

08-24-2011, 11:14 AM	#5
Pete4prez Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 110	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn For the most part, I thought the article was accurate.

08-24-2011, 12:21 PM	#6
Roush's socks Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 346	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn Dunn's decline is a strange case because he had been SO consistent over previous seasons, we all projected that he would keep up those numbers with a slow gradual decline. What has happened can only be explained as: 1. He "got old" over night. This happens in all sports where a player over 30 who has got some miles on the odometer just loses whatever athleticism that was keeping them competitive. 2. It could be more of a mental thing, compounded by switching leagues and struggling with AL pitching. Just like Tiger Woods problems are largely mental, it could be that Dunn is just in a major funk. Being a DH could be a factor. Maybe playing the OF helped keep him sharp. 3. You also have to consider maybe a more chemical explanation that could involve you know whats. I'm not saying there is any evidence, only that in this day and age you always have to consider it. All in all I wouldn't be surprised to see Dunn make a comeback next year under the right circumstances.

08-25-2011, 03:05 PM	#7
jwmann2 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 340	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn Dunn hasn't adjusted to being a DH. Its gotta be different. He needs to step up the cardio and get in the weight room. Couldn't hurt. Could him the confidence he needs to become great again. Kearns was just a good baseball player. Like Jeff Franceour, nothing flashy about his game, not yet a journeyman but knows how to play the game of baseball. __________________ MLB Ballparks NFL Stadiums Great American Ballpark Seat Reviews

08-25-2011, 03:25 PM	#8
bounty37h Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chapel Hill NC Posts: 3,076	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn That would imply that Kearns was ever near the top to actually fall from somewhere? I would say it was more like he just rolled over, not an actual fall. __________________ UNC Tar Heels 2009 National Champions 5 time NCAA Champs 57, 82, 93, 05, 09 Go Heels!!!!!

08-25-2011, 03:46 PM	#9
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,787	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn Kearns had the talent. He didn't have the drive to be a great, or even good baseball player. What a waste. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

08-25-2011, 04:04 PM	#10
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,545	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn Kearns was also a little snake-bitten. http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...-kearns-career

08-28-2011, 07:55 AM	#11
CrosleyField Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 171	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn What Kearns and Lopez have done after the trade should be some vindication for Krivsky.

08-30-2011, 10:15 AM	#15
powersackers Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 758	Re: Great article on the fall of Kearns and Dunn Dunn benched for the rest of the year basically: http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story...e-sox-too-long It is the work ethic that did him in. Only an offseason program with tons of conditioning will get the Sox their 56M dollars worth. I'm actually rooting for him.

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