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Tom Servo · 09-11-2011, 02:58 PM

Stubbs 8
Renteria 6
Votto 3
Bruce 9
Heisey 7
Hernandez 2
Frazier 5
Valaika 4
Volquez 1

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 03:43 PM

After two innings, Reds 0, Rockies 0.

Volquez at 31 pitches, 18 strikes.
Pomeranz 28 pitches, 18 strikes.

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 03:54 PM

Renteria hits into a 6-3 doubleplay to end the 3rd.

Drew Stubbs, who had just walked, made absolutely no attempt to try to break up the doubleplay, he just jogged out of the baseline to avoid the throw. Saw a similar play by the Reds yesterday, I think it was Votto. When did it become OK to stop playing baseball hard? Why is Dusty allowing this, and why does the team culture allow this? Would this happen if there was a stat for breaking up doubleplays?

Ron Madden · 09-11-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mbgrayson

Renteria hits into a 6-3 doubleplay to end the 3rd.

Drew Stubbs, who had just walked, made absolutely no attempt to try to break up the doubleplay, he just jogged out of the baseline to avoid the throw. Saw a similar play by the Reds yesterday, I think it was Votto. When did it become OK to stop playing baseball hard? Why is Dusty allowing this, and why does the team culture allow this? Would this happen if there was a stat for breaking up doubleplays?

I don't know. I thought Renteria's grounder was fielded right on top of second base, not much of a chance to break up the DP IMHO.

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Madden

I don't know. I thought Renteria's grounder was fielded right on top of second base, not much of a chance to break up the DP IMHO.

It was hit fairly close to the bag. Still, it looked like less than a 100% effort to me....

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 04:05 PM

After three innings, Reds 0, Rockies 0.

Volquez at 51 pitches, 29 strikes, with 0 hits, 3 Ks and 3 BBs.
Pomeranz 42 pitches, 23 strikes, with 1 hit, 1 K, and 2 BBs.

Ron Madden · 09-11-2011, 04:13 PM

Hell of a play by Frazier.

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 04:18 PM

After four innings, Reds 0, Rockies 1.

Volquez at 70 pitches, 41 strikes, with 2 hits, 3 Ks and 3 BBs. (Wigginton HR).
Pomeranz 51 pitches, 29 strikes, with 1 hit, 2 K, and 2 BBs.

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 04:46 PM

After five innings, Rockies 2, Reds 0.

Volquez at 99 pitches, 56 strikes, with 4 hits, 3 Ks and 4 BBs.
Pomeranz 63 pitches, 36 strikes, with 2 hits (both Valaika), 2 K, and 2 BBs.

Drew Pomeranz's MLB debut is done. He was replaced with a pinch hitter in the bottom of the 5th. He had his appendix out in August, and only had one outing, for three innings in AA, since then. The Reds made him look very good.

Volquez has been his usual self. Decent stuff, but not good control. Very pitch ineffcient. It just shouldn't take 100 pitches to get through 5 innings.

Ron Madden · 09-11-2011, 04:47 PM

What happened to Valaika ?

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Madden

What happened to Valaika ?

They haven't said. It was odd: middle of the inning, out in the field, nothing that I could see. Cairo in to play 2nd.

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 04:59 PM

After six innings, Rockies 2, Reds 0.

Ondrusek at 7 pitches, 6 strikes.
Hamel in for the Rockies, 11 pitches, 8 strikes.

Ondrusek in for Volquez. Volquez threw 99 pitches, gave up 4 hits, 3 Ks and 4 BBs, and 2 earned runs.

CTA513 · 09-11-2011, 05:06 PM

Hernandez hitting just over .200 since the All-Star break.

Ron Madden · 09-11-2011, 05:16 PM

That hit Hernandez right in the catchers mitt. Passed Ball.

mbgrayson · 09-11-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CTA513

Hernandez hitting just over .200 since the All-Star break.

And today has given up 3 SBs, and 2 passed balls.

09-11-2011, 02:58 PM	#1
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,612	9/11/11 - Reds at Rox Stubbs 8 Renteria 6 Votto 3 Bruce 9 Heisey 7 Hernandez 2 Frazier 5 Valaika 4 Volquez 1 __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

09-11-2011, 03:43 PM	#2
mbgrayson Red's fan Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,950	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox After two innings, Reds 0, Rockies 0. Volquez at 31 pitches, 18 strikes. Pomeranz 28 pitches, 18 strikes. __________________ __________________ "I genuinely like this team. I like the vibe and spirit of this team. This is just the beginning." Dusty on 2/19/12.

09-11-2011, 03:54 PM	#3
mbgrayson Red's fan Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,950	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox Renteria hits into a 6-3 doubleplay to end the 3rd. Drew Stubbs, who had just walked, made absolutely no attempt to try to break up the doubleplay, he just jogged out of the baseline to avoid the throw. Saw a similar play by the Reds yesterday, I think it was Votto. When did it become OK to stop playing baseball hard? Why is Dusty allowing this, and why does the team culture allow this? Would this happen if there was a stat for breaking up doubleplays? __________________ __________________ "I genuinely like this team. I like the vibe and spirit of this team. This is just the beginning." Dusty on 2/19/12.

09-11-2011, 04:05 PM	#6
mbgrayson Red's fan Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,950	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox After three innings, Reds 0, Rockies 0. Volquez at 51 pitches, 29 strikes, with 0 hits, 3 Ks and 3 BBs. Pomeranz 42 pitches, 23 strikes, with 1 hit, 1 K, and 2 BBs. __________________ __________________ "I genuinely like this team. I like the vibe and spirit of this team. This is just the beginning." Dusty on 2/19/12.

09-11-2011, 04:13 PM	#7
Ron Madden Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,815	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox Hell of a play by Frazier.

09-11-2011, 04:18 PM	#8
mbgrayson Red's fan Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,950	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox After four innings, Reds 0, Rockies 1. Volquez at 70 pitches, 41 strikes, with 2 hits, 3 Ks and 3 BBs. (Wigginton HR). Pomeranz 51 pitches, 29 strikes, with 1 hit, 2 K, and 2 BBs. __________________ __________________ "I genuinely like this team. I like the vibe and spirit of this team. This is just the beginning." Dusty on 2/19/12. Last edited by mbgrayson; 09-11-2011 at 04:22 PM.

09-11-2011, 04:46 PM	#9
mbgrayson Red's fan Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,950	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox After five innings, Rockies 2, Reds 0. Volquez at 99 pitches, 56 strikes, with 4 hits, 3 Ks and 4 BBs. Pomeranz 63 pitches, 36 strikes, with 2 hits (both Valaika), 2 K, and 2 BBs. Drew Pomeranz's MLB debut is done. He was replaced with a pinch hitter in the bottom of the 5th. He had his appendix out in August, and only had one outing, for three innings in AA, since then. The Reds made him look very good. Volquez has been his usual self. Decent stuff, but not good control. Very pitch ineffcient. It just shouldn't take 100 pitches to get through 5 innings. __________________ __________________ "I genuinely like this team. I like the vibe and spirit of this team. This is just the beginning." Dusty on 2/19/12.

09-11-2011, 04:47 PM	#10
Ron Madden Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,815	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox What happened to Valaika ?

09-11-2011, 04:59 PM	#12
mbgrayson Red's fan Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,950	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox After six innings, Rockies 2, Reds 0. Ondrusek at 7 pitches, 6 strikes. Hamel in for the Rockies, 11 pitches, 8 strikes. Ondrusek in for Volquez. Volquez threw 99 pitches, gave up 4 hits, 3 Ks and 4 BBs, and 2 earned runs. __________________ __________________ "I genuinely like this team. I like the vibe and spirit of this team. This is just the beginning." Dusty on 2/19/12.

09-11-2011, 05:06 PM	#13
CTA513 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10,703	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox Hernandez hitting just over .200 since the All-Star break.

09-11-2011, 05:16 PM	#14
Ron Madden Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,815	Re: 9/11/11 - Reds at Rox That hit Hernandez right in the catchers mitt. Passed Ball.

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