SEC Football Discussion Thread

[jojo]

Originally Posted by VottoFan54

There really isn't a place to post this, but Lane Kiffin is a former SEC coach.

http://www.theschoolphilly.com/today...sed-from-jail/



Pretty classless move to pull the kid's scholarship for a guy that was just released from jail.

Lane Kiffin is one of my least favorite humans. It's a short list but it includes names like Hitler and the ref who called the phantom penalty on Nick Fairley in the 2010 Iron Bowl.

[Todd Gack]

Originally Posted by VottoFan54

There really isn't a place to post this, but Lane Kiffin is a former SEC coach.

http://www.theschoolphilly.com/today...sed-from-jail/



Pretty classless move to pull the kid's scholarship for a guy that was just released from jail.

So a walk on was granted a scholarship for a year an then he goes back to walk-on status. Where is the confusion in this. He's right. . . . he's lucky he had one for a year. He's a college football coach and he's not much different than anyone else in the business. . . especially the SEC.

[jojo]

Ummmmm.......maybe not so much....

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...s-howard-matth

Kevin Sumlin postpones suspensions of two players

[dabvu2498]

Originally Posted by jojo

Ummmmm.......maybe not so much....

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...s-howard-matth

Not to mention that according to US News and Workd Report, they're the #58 national university on the academic side of things.

Good enough for a tie with the University of Florida.

[KronoRed]

That billboard was down in a day or two, apparently A&M threatened legal action.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by KronoRed

That billboard was down in a day or two, apparently A&M threatened legal action.

Yes. This has been the subject of alot of good ole SEC conspiracy theories in the web. I've even seen it suggested that LSU boosters actually paid for the sign. The South is nothing if not nuts about football.

[WMR]

I would guess it was a Univ of Texas booster/fan.

[WDE]

Originally Posted by jojo

the ref who called the phantom penalty on Nick Fairley in the 2010 Iron Bowl.

My goodness. That was the worst call I have ever seen. Make up call for the Georgia game, but the penalty led to a touchdown for Alabama that they wouldn't have had had they not gotten that call. That first half was the biggest possible nightmare for any Auburn fan.

[19braves77]

Like I said Auburn isn't that good this year. You lose Dyer and your OC and you have hope because why ?

[jojo]

Originally Posted by 19braves77

Like I said Auburn isn't that good this year. You lose Dyer and your OC and you have hope because why ?

One might have hope because they understand football and context and realize there is a lot of young talent and great coaches in the program as the Tubberville void is over being essentially recruited away although growing pains are still going to exist because game experience can only come from playing against guys who have already paid their dues. So one could have hope by being the alternative to a toothless, extra from the set of Deliverance who never attended the university affiliated with the football program that they derive their sense of self worth and identity from...

Again, I can't speak for every person who sees what Chizik is building and is excited but the above is just a guess that probably comes close for a good many people on the Plains.

Was today laying a turd that couldn't get over fast enough? Ya, it's tough to find any positive but it doesn't define the state of the program.

[WDE]

Originally Posted by 19braves77

Like I said Auburn isn't that good this year. You lose Dyer and your OC and you have hope because why ?

You honestly don't know what you are talking about do you? Yes, we are not that great this year, but to have no hope because you lose Dyer and Malzahn is ridiculous. There is more to teams than just one player.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by WDE

You honestly don't know what you are talking about do you? Yes, we are not that great this year, but to have no hope because you lose Dyer and Malzahn is ridiculous. There is more to teams than just one player.

To understand the current state of the Auburn football program, one has to appreciate some recent history.

Tubberville was a great coach and the Auburn program ruled Alabama under him. However, his last two to three years really saw his program develop some cracks. His recruiting took a noticeable nose dive with his last two classes being well below acceptable. This inertia was also reflected in his on the field results. 11-2 to 9-4 and then 5-7 in his final year (2008). Chizik was hired following the season and essentially cobbled together a recruiting class on the fly meaning roughly three classes in succession weren't on par with Auburn's SEC rivals.

That said, Chizik hired Malzahn and a very good 4-3 guy (Roof) as coordinators and tailored their offense and defense to the talent Chizik inherited and Auburn began recruiting in earnest.

2010 marked the end of Tubby's classes and culminated in a national championship but everyone knew the experience gap was about to manifest (and this was exacerbated by several talented juniors leaving after the championship as well).

2011 was largely characterized by a lack of upperclassman and experience. Several key injuries further contributed to a lack of depth. These season the Tigers are again very young (Last Week was their quaterback's first collegiate start, their OL is made up of mostly either true or redshirt freshman). Their DL is likewise very young. But there is a great deal of talent and athleticism now that Tubby's classes were starting to lose. This year there is true competition at all positions.

Given the youth, the end of 2011 also marked a perfect time for Chizik to make some changes in his program so that the offense and defense were more consistent with his philosophy. In other words, this off season was the perfect time to part ways with Malzahn. In many ways Roof was a victim of Malzahn's offense plus he and Chizik had some philosophical differences.

This year's recruiting class will be Chizik's third top ten class since he's been here and it's going to be loaded with some studs that plug some of the weaknesses still evident in this year's team. Next year the depth will be back to where the roster of a top SEC team would expected to be and there won't be any gaps in the age of players etc. Most associated with Auburn point to next year as the year they can be legit SEC contenders.

The first two games I think exposed the inexperience as a real weakness. But Auburn frankly could have beaten Clemson. Clearly the talent is there. Today's game? It was a major flop. But MSU has a scary good secondary and Mullen basically made Frazier have to meat MSU. As tests go, Clemson and MSU were probably the worst possible match ups as the first two opponents this year. Neither team is unbeatable (especially MSU) but they were bad matchups especially for road games.

Unless something unexpected happens (injuries or Chizik implodes and loses the players), the Tigers are going to get much better each week.

[19braves77]

This was probably Auburn's worst since 2008 Vandy or the 3-2 victory vs Mississippi State. Loeffler is the problem. Its like Tony Franklin all over again. It would have not hurt to pull Frazier and see what a different QB can do. Its going to be a long season for Auburn.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by 19braves77

This was probably Auburn's worst since 2008 Vandy or the 3-2 victory vs Mississippi State. Loeffler is the problem. Its like Tony Franklin all over again. It would have not hurt to pull Frazier and see what a different QB can do. Its going to be a long season for Auburn.

Mosley has an ailing shoulder and Wallace is a true freshman.

[kaldaniels]

Down go the Razorbacks.

Wow.