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Old 09-19-2012, 10:30 PM   #376
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No Saban lost UAB his first year with LSU and also to Louisiana-Monroe his first year with Alabama. You can bet Saban wasn't after either lose.. If JLS comes out and doesn't make excuses, he survives. His comments after halftime of the Alabama game also sealed his fate. When the reporter asked what changes would be made for the 2nd half & he answered.."Just keep doing what we're doing"(not his exact words)..Really coach..What you did in the 1st half opened up a "can of whoop a.." for your players.. It was clear he was in over head.
JS is done as the Arkansas coach. Hog fans thought this was their year to win a National Championship and when Petrino flamed out, JS was specifically brought in to run the offense like a Petrino clone. I can't think of a single compelling reason for why Arkansas would extend JS into a permanent HC.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:34 PM   #377
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and to be fair, Alabama had a coach like JLS also. This pretty much made it clear after this game that Kines would never be the full time head coach at Alabama.

Joe Kine's Indy Bowl Halftime Interview - YouTube

Houston Nutt also had a habit of acting crazy during interviews after terrible loses.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:37 PM   #378
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JS is done as the Arkansas coach. Hog fans thought this was their year to win a National Championship and when Petrino flamed out, JS was specifically brought in to run the offense like a Petrino clone. I can't think of a single compelling reason for why Arkansas would extend JS into a permanent HC.
I think he could have survived this season up until that "smile" debacle.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:46 PM   #379
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No Saban lost UAB his first year with LSU and also to Louisiana-Monroe his first year with Alabama. You can bet Saban wasn't smiling after either lose.. If JLS comes out and doesn't make excuses, he survives. His comments after halftime of the Alabama game also sealed his fate. When the reporter asked what changes would be made for the 2nd half & he answered.."Just keep doing what we're doing"(not his exact words)..Really coach..What you did in the 1st half opened up a "can of whoop a.." for your players.. It was clear he was in over head.
Saban wasn't brought in as an interim coach and didn't inherit a team in the top 10.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:13 AM   #380
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Saban wasn't brought in as an interim coach and didn't inherit a team in the top 10.
Right but at the time no player on UAB or UL Monroe roster would have been given a scholarship to play at LSU or Alabama.

Arkansas probably didnt deserve the #4 ranking to start the season.

Seems JLS needs the money he is getting this year:

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Old 09-20-2012, 09:33 AM   #381
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No doubt, but Saban didn't start on shaky ground. John L. did. When UL-M's QB hit the end zone in OT in Fayetteville, the John L. Smith era at Arkansas effectively ended.
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Old 09-20-2012, 06:12 PM   #382
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:38 PM   #383
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JLS was doomed from the start,was just a temp.
The fact that the Hogs have played so bad is the talent they have on both sides of the ball.Petrino did not believe in recruiting any semblance of defense,always tried to outscore you.That mindset may work elsewhere ,but not the defensive minded SEC.They in no way deserved their ranking to start the season.We will see how they respond to Syracuse Sat.with Wilson back under center.
If they lose,then that program will be in a free fall and may take years to rebuild.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:42 PM   #384
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and to be fair, Alabama had a coach like JLS also. This pretty much made it clear after this game that Kines would never be the full time head coach at Alabama.

Joe Kine's Indy Bowl Halftime Interview - YouTube

Houston Nutt also had a habit of acting crazy during interviews after terrible loses.
Kines was just a fill in to ride the season out.Heckuva defensive coach,and an all around great guy.
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Petrino did not believe in recruiting any semblance of defense,always tried to outscore you.That mindset may work elsewhere ,but not the defensive minded SEC.
Petrino's Arkansas team last year beat everyone they played other than LSU and Alabama (who were #1 and #2 in the nation) and won the Cotton Bowl. His Louisville teams went 41-9 and won an Orange Bowl. Petrino may be a jerk, but there aren't really any holes in how he built teams. His teams won, period.
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cmon Gene ! Show you can do something without Cam Newton !
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cmon Gene ! Show you can do something without Cam Newton !
Quit being a turd.
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Blame that lose on the Auburn coaching staff. The OC is terrible. Gene probably did enough to get the monkeys off his back.
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Blame that lose on the Auburn coaching staff. The OC is terrible. Gene probably did enough to get the monkeys off his back.
LSU's defense is awesome. I'm not sure you're a football person.

Truthfully, Auburn left at least 10 pts on the field with Coats' drop on the deep route and Frazier missing an open McCaleb running down the sideline.

The game plan was fine. The offense is there. KF is just struggling to transition from a spread offense which he's always played to a pro set- one of the hardest transitions or a QB to make.
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Rutgers 35, Arkansas 26.

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