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redsfan30 · 09-28-2011, 09:49 AM

In an otherwise completely meaningless season finale today, there are a few things to keep an eye on.

Joey Votto sits on 29 homers.

Jay Bruce sits on 97 RBI.

The Reds as a team sit on 79 wins.

What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. However, it would be awfully cool to see this team have two hitters with 30 HR/100 RBI seasons. And while there is certainly no difference whatsoever, 80-82 looks so much better to the eye than 79-83 at the end of the day.

I haven't lurked as much around here lately so if it's been touched on I am sorry but when was the last time the Reds had two players with 30/100 seasons?

PS....go Braves!

reds1869 · 09-28-2011, 09:52 AM

I really hope Votto gets to 30. He has had such an impressive season considering how much teams pitched around him. I also agree that 80 looks a whole lot better than 79!

Sea Ray · 09-28-2011, 10:35 AM

Dusty alluded to the idea last night that you don't want to end the season on a "9" like 29 HRs or 199 innings.

Always Red · 09-28-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

Dusty alluded to the idea last night that you don't want to end the season on a "9" like 29 HRs or 199 innings.

...or 79 wins.

Look, I like Dusty and have no problem at all with the Reds bringing him back- I think continuity is important in building a winning program.

But I'd rather hear the Reds manager talk about wins more than individual numbers of his players.

Roy Tucker · 09-28-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Always Red

...or 79 wins.

Look, I like Dusty and have no problem at all with the Reds bringing him back- I think continuity is important in building a winning program.

But I'd rather hear the Reds manager talk about wins more than individual numbers of his players.

I agree. The W count is what matters. Whatever you have to do to increase that is all that counts.

Talking about ending 9's and 97 vs. 100 is just arbitrary false milestones and a lot of number voodoo.

I'm still all fired up about a winning culture. Get off my lawn.

cumberlandreds · 09-28-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Always Red

...or 79 wins.

But I'd rather hear the Reds manager talk about wins more than individual numbers of his players.

Amen!

Benihana · 09-28-2011, 11:56 AM

Am I the only one hoping the Reds lose today for the better/protected draft pick? I believe if Reds win and Blue Jays lose, Reds will get 16th pick and more importantly unprotected for signing Type A free agents.

Of course, knowing the Reds history, this will be a non-issue as there won't be any high-profile signings considered anyway.

lollipopcurve · 09-28-2011, 12:02 PM

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Am I the only one hoping the Reds lose today for the better/protected draft pick? I believe if Reds win and Blue Jays lose, Reds will get 16th pick and more importantly unprotected for signing Type A free agents.

Don't think so. Picks don't alternate leagues any more. I believe the Reds will get #13 or #14, based on what the White Sox do.

gonelong · 09-28-2011, 12:24 PM

Nobody wants a boss that is concerned by the decimal points on the bottom line. I doubt the players are any different. A win or two one way or the other makes little difference.

It's no wonder the players like Dusty and play hard for him.

GL

westofyou · 09-28-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by reds1869

I really hope Votto gets to 30. He has had such an impressive season considering how much teams pitched around him. I also agree that 80 looks a whole lot better than 79!

Al Kaline and Andres Galarrga agree. Sam Rice too

Benihana · 09-28-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lollipopcurve

Don't think so. Picks don't alternate leagues any more. I believe the Reds will get #13 or #14, based on what the White Sox do.

I was going off of this: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings

Sea Ray · 09-28-2011, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Always Red

...or 79 wins.

Look, I like Dusty and have no problem at all with the Reds bringing him back- I think continuity is important in building a winning program.

But I'd rather hear the Reds manager talk about wins more than individual numbers of his players.

He very well might have. Don't take my post as a direct quote of what he said. It was late and I was channel surfing by then...

redsfandan · 09-28-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lollipopcurve

Don't think so. Picks don't alternate leagues any more. I believe the Reds will get #13 or #14, based on what the White Sox do.

I thought the Reds pick was going to be protected too. But, it looks like it'll still depend on todays games.

Chicago (WS), Cincinnati, Washington*, Toronto, and Cleveland could all finish with 80 wins. If that happens 3 of those teams will get the 13-15 (protected) spots in the draft. The tie breaker will be record in previous year. Which wouldn't be good for the Reds.

* Washington will finish with less than 162 games played so if they win they shouldn't have a protected pick.

Rojo · 09-28-2011, 02:58 PM

BP sitting to protect the .300. Can't blame him. He earned it.

George Anderson · 09-28-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rojo

BP sitting to protect the .300. Can't blame him. He earned it.

Teddy Baseball disagrees.

09-28-2011, 09:52 AM	#2
reds1869 We Need Our Myths Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Overlooking GABP Posts: 4,163	Re: Actually, A Few Reasons To Be Interested Today. I really hope Votto gets to 30. He has had such an impressive season considering how much teams pitched around him. I also agree that 80 looks a whole lot better than 79!

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Sea Ray Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 15,255	Re: Actually, A Few Reasons To Be Interested Today. Dusty alluded to the idea last night that you don't want to end the season on a "9" like 29 HRs or 199 innings.

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Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,432	Re: Actually, A Few Reasons To Be Interested Today. Am I the only one hoping the Reds lose today for the better/protected draft pick? I believe if Reds win and Blue Jays lose, Reds will get 16th pick and more importantly unprotected for signing Type A free agents. Of course, knowing the Reds history, this will be a non-issue as there won't be any high-profile signings considered anyway. __________________ Go BLUE!!!

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09-28-2011, 09:49 AM	#1
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,545	Actually, A Few Reasons To Be Interested Today. In an otherwise completely meaningless season finale today, there are a few things to keep an eye on. Joey Votto sits on 29 homers. Jay Bruce sits on 97 RBI. The Reds as a team sit on 79 wins. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. However, it would be awfully cool to see this team have two hitters with 30 HR/100 RBI seasons. And while there is certainly no difference whatsoever, 80-82 looks so much better to the eye than 79-83 at the end of the day. I haven't lurked as much around here lately so if it's been touched on I am sorry but when was the last time the Reds had two players with 30/100 seasons? PS....go Braves! __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

09-28-2011, 02:58 PM	#14
Rojo Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Bush Leagues Posts: 8,424	Re: Actually, A Few Reasons To Be Interested Today. BP sitting to protect the .300. Can't blame him. He earned it. __________________ The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle