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Old 09-26-2011, 06:15 AM   #1
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:23 AM   #2
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I don't get it.
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:27 AM   #3
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I don't get it.
I think what he's getting at is that the Colts are a very poor team without Manning.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:57 AM   #4
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It's called most valuable. On the field or not Manning is the most valuable player to his team. Haha.
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Old 09-26-2011, 08:32 PM   #5
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The Patriots would've probably went 11-5 or 12-4 in their 16-0 season without Brady.

The Colts are no better than a 2-3 win team during their best das of 2004-2007. +

I think this season proves who should really get MVP every year. It's like the years Jordan didn't win MVP in the NBA.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:09 AM   #6
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The Patriots would've probably went 11-5 or 12-4 in their 16-0 season without Brady.

The Colts are no better than a 2-3 win team during their best das of 2004-2007. +

I think this season proves who should really get MVP every year. It's like the years Jordan didn't win MVP in the NBA.
I believe they were 11-5 the following year without Brady (and somehow missed the playoffs with that record...reminds me of the 1999 Reds).
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Old 10-01-2011, 12:05 AM   #7
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I believe they were 11-5 the following year without Brady (and somehow missed the playoffs with that record...reminds me of the 1999 Reds).
The AFC east played the wests that year, the Chargers were good and beat the Pats, and Arizona went to the SB that year, but it snowed when they came to Foxboro and they had already clinched, so they didn't really even show up for that game. The rest of both of those divisions were terrible, so all the AFCE teams had easy schedules that season. The Dolphins also won 11 games with Chad Pennington and their surprising(at the time) wildcat offense. It came down to the last game, the Pats needed the Jets to beat the Dolphins, and, even less surprising than Miami's wildcat is to anyone now, Favre threw 3 picks and the Dolphins won the division on a tie-breaker.

Also, Matt Cassell is still someone's starting QB, maybe Curtis Painter will surprise people with a little unexpected competence and land the Colts a draft pick after the season. Cassell had always looked totally useless in pre-seasons and garbage time before then.
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Old 10-01-2011, 02:25 AM   #8
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I would say Brady or Rodgers.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:56 AM   #9
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I would say Brady or Rodgers.
I agree...They are much better...
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:00 PM   #10
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Maybe they could come up with a new award. Like MVP By Omission or Would Have Been MVP If He Played or Biggest Differential in Win Total When Hurt.

i.e. if you take this player away from this team, the team will collapse.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:20 PM   #11
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Wes Welker. Okay, I don't really think so, but 45 receptions for 740 yards through 5 games is kind of silly.
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