Is this family court judge unfit?

[Hoosier Red]

My biggest problem with the video is all the things that would probably make it inadmissable from a legal standpoint make it all the more disgusting.

She videotaped it, which to me suggests she wanted to catch him in the act, which means she knew what was going to happen to her.

To me this means this likely wasn't a one time thing. It wasn't the first or the last time this guy did this, and so the "I went over the line and apologized" nonsense goes out the window.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Hoosier Red

She videotaped it, which to me suggests she wanted to catch him in the act, which means she knew what was going to happen to her.

Wouldn't this argument mean that a bankrobber couldn't be prosecuted based upon security camera footage because the bank knew it was likely to be robbed at some point?

[Johnny Footstool]

I am in favor of limited corporal punishment for kids -- a couple of swats on the behind with a bare hand, delivered with the tiniest amount of force.

I'm not in favor of using a belt, a switch, a wooden spoon (my mom used to use one), or other objects. The point of a spanking, IMO, isn't really to inflict pain. It's psychological.

This guy was out to inflict pain.

[The Operator]

I agree, Johnny. I've always thought a spanking was more about breaking a child's pride a little bit after doing something wrong, not hurting them.

That guy was beating the tar out of her.

[GAC]

Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

I am in favor of limited corporal punishment for kids -- a couple of swats on the behind with a bare hand, delivered with the tiniest amount of force.

I'm not in favor of using a belt, a switch, a wooden spoon (my mom used to use one), or other objects. The point of a spanking, IMO, isn't really to inflict pain. It's psychological.

I was always told that one shouldn't use the bare hand because the child will then "associate" the hand with something negative. Now obviously that doesn't mean you grab a 2x4; but my Dad had a wooden paddle. And he didn't beat the crap out of us per say, but he'd give us anywhere from 5-10 good whacks with it. He'd then tell us to stay in our room to think about what we did, and then he'd come in later to talk it out. But we were three hard headed boys growing up. We never learned. LOL

Originally Posted by The Operator

I agree, Johnny. I've always thought a spanking was more about breaking a child's pride a little bit after doing something wrong, not hurting them.

I agree. Break their pride (somewhat); but not their spirit. A very strong-willed child can be very difficult to deal with. But even so, that's no excuse to beat the tar out of them. Especially when that type of beating (abuse) isn't going to accomplish anything positive other then fuel hatred and resentment in the relationship. You've then defeated the whole purpose of correction.

[oneupper]

Originally Posted by Hoosier Red

She videotaped it, which to me suggests she wanted to catch him in the act, which means she knew what was going to happen to her.

Shades of the scene in the "Sixth Sense" where the little girl videotaped her Münchausen mom poisoning her.

Scary stuff. What happens to the girl if the Dad would have found out about the tape while she was still in his care?

[jojo]

If the belt fits, the judge must quit.

[Johnny Footstool]

Originally Posted by GAC

I was always told that one shouldn't use the bare hand because the child will then "associate" the hand with something negative.

Yeah, I've heard that as well. But honestly, I'm the one administering the punishment, so my boys are going to associate me with something negative, whether I'm using a tool or not.

And yes, spanking is completely about deflating their egos and teaching them that inappropriate behavior has consequences. Spanking is the final consequence, and honestly, I rarely have to use it. Warnings and the loss of privileges are usually enough.

[GAC]

Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

Yeah, I've heard that as well. But honestly, I'm the one administering the punishment, so my boys are going to associate me with something negative, whether I'm using a tool or not.

And yes, spanking is completely about deflating their egos and teaching them that inappropriate behavior has consequences. Spanking is the final consequence, and honestly, I rarely have to use it. Warnings and the loss of privileges are usually enough.

By the way - how are those boys of yours doing Johnny? How old are they? Give me some updates buddy, and maybe some pics. I still remember when you had your first one.

I think being a parent taught me more life lessons then anything else.

[Rojo]

I never wanted to break my son's pride.

[Johnny Footstool]

Originally Posted by GAC

By the way - how are those boys of yours doing Johnny? How old are they? Give me some updates buddy, and maybe some pics. I still remember when you had your first one.

I think being a parent taught me more life lessons then anything else.

They're doing very well. My oldest just turned 5. He'll start kindergarden next year. My youngest is about to turn 2. He's loves sports, especially football. He's got a fierce pitching arm, too.