Reds Hot Stove Rumors (Discussion)

[savafan]

Figured it might be a good idea to have one thread for the smaller type rumors:

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RT @OverTheBaggy According to Cincy sports radio, #Twins have made calls inquiring about #Reds pitcher Johnny Cueto. (via @baseballblahs)

[savafan]

Baseballblahs Mark
Rumor has it the Yankees called the Reds about Cueto, Yankees said only Montero and Banueles were out of question

[Vottomatic]

Holy Smokes Batman!

Makes me think the Reds put the word out that everyone on the team is available for the right price. Interesting.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by savafan

Baseballblahs Mark
Rumor has it the Yankees called the Reds about Cueto, Yankees said only Montero and Banueles were out of question

Then why would we trade him? Well, I guess if they wanted to send me Curtis Granderson in return...

[Joseph]

How bad does this team look without Cueto next year? Pretty bad I bet, assuming we don't sign a legit 1 or 2 as replacement.

[Scrap Irony]

Cueto would take an incredible deal-- I don't think the Yankees have the guys to get it done, frankly. Even with Betances, Benuelos, and Montero, it'd be a tough pill.

[klw]

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

Cueto would take an incredible deal-- I don't think the Yankees have the guys to get it done, frankly. Even with Betances, Benuelos, and Montero, it'd be a tough pill.

Well if only Benuelos, and Montero are off the table then send Sabathia and Nova and even out the money and call it a day.

[savafan]

Baseballblahs Mark
Announcers speculate Reds wouldn't be sellers on Cueto, if they were, 2 pitchers and OF prospect(guess Mesa)

[Oxilon]

I understand that nobody is untouchable on a team, but what are the Reds trying to accomplish in trading their best young pitcher?

[savafan]

Originally Posted by Oxilon

I understand that nobody is untouchable on a team, but what are the Reds trying to accomplish in trading their best young pitcher?

I don't think the Reds are shopping him. If we're to believe the information, it sounds like teams are knocking at the Reds door begging for him.

[savafan]

SI's Joe Sheehan says this deal should happen:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...1768/index.htm

Rays trade P James Shields to Reds for 1B Yonder Alonso and P Edinson Volquez

A deal that made sense during the summer still does, as Tampa Bay has too many starting pitchers for one rotation, and the Reds have too many first basemen for one lineup. Trying to play Alonso, a middle-of-the-order hitter, in leftfield is bad for the team's defense and the player's development. The Rays, for all their comebacky goodness, were exposed in the playoffs—again—as a team that can't score enough to get over the hump. Volquez needs a change of scenery and could be part of a once-again-rebuilt Rays pen in 2012. Shields is coming off his best season and would slot well as the Reds' No. 1 starter as Cincinnati tries to bounce back from a disappointing season.

[LoganBuck]

Originally Posted by savafan

SI's Joe Sheehan says this deal should happen:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...1768/index.htm

Where do you sign?

[osuceltic]

The Cueto rumors are interesting. That's a true "trade high" scenario.

[thatcoolguy_22]

Originally Posted by osuceltic

The Cueto rumors are interesting. That's a true "trade high" scenario.

I thought I was the only person who thought this as soon as I saw the rumors. I'm a huge fan of Cueto but, he had a few injuries last year, his k/9 rate dropped for the 3rd straight season, his hr/fb took a dramtic dip, xFip 3.90, and his gb/fb rose. I'm thinking if you can receive #1 SP like return for Cueto, then you take it. 2011 might be the best of his career if his much improved rate stats go back to pre 2011 levels.

To wrap: I would entertain the idea in a vaccuum, but without knowing what compensation or additional moves will follow its tough to say if I'm for trading him.

[corkedbat]

Originally Posted by savafan

SI's Joe Sheehan says this deal should happen:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...1768/index.htm

Make that one happen and keep Cueto and find a LF for a deal built around guys like Bailey, Heisey, Grandal, YRod, etc. If at all possible, I'd try to deal Arroyo for Youkilis (but can't see that happening).

After that, I'd be good except for some minor deals. A reliever or two and maybe a backup SS. Possibly a closer if the price is right (as well as the talent cost).