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Old 11-17-2011, 02:06 PM   #1
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Kershaw is the winner of NL Cy Young Award
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:52 PM   #2
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Im stunned.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:39 PM   #3
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Re: Kershaw is the winner of NL Cy Young Award
Johnny Cueto got one 5th place vote, and finished tied for 10th w/ Grienke and Kimbrel.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:16 PM   #4
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Im stunned.
Why, 1-2-3 was pretty obvious, and the voters saw it that way.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:30 PM   #5
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Why, 1-2-3 was pretty obvious, and the voters saw it that way.
1-2-3 was pretty obvious, but not in that order. Any attempt to control for the contributions of environment and/or his team's defensive contributions quickly puts Halladay in the lead (this is true in both Fangraph's FIP based approach and Baseball-References Runs Allowed based-approach). That said, it's all close enough between those 3 to say that any of them were deserving.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:48 PM   #6
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Man, Chad Reineke waz robbbed!
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:05 PM   #7
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Johnny Cueto got one 5th place vote, and finished tied for 10th w/ Grienke and Kimbrel.
Where are you seeing this?
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:20 PM   #8
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Where are you seeing this?
a random google search, don't recall the actual site
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:17 AM   #9
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1-2-3 was pretty obvious, but not in that order. Any attempt to control for the contributions of environment and/or his team's defensive contributions quickly puts Halladay in the lead (this is true in both Fangraph's FIP based approach and Baseball-References Runs Allowed based-approach). That said, it's all close enough between those 3 to say that any of them were deserving.
I agree all were deserving, thats's why I was surprised that anyone would be "stunned" with the result. Holliday edged out Kershaw in FIP. Kershaw's 20 win season ensured he would win. That's what the voters have usually look for amoung decent candidates. Like it or not, a pitcher who leads the league in wins, K's and ERA is not going to lose the CYA.
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Why, 1-2-3 was pretty obvious, and the voters saw it that way.
I was being facetious.

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Old 11-18-2011, 10:21 AM   #11
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Clayton Kershaw 	Dodgers 	       207
Roy Halladay 	        Phillies 	       133
Cliff Lee 	        Phillies 	  	90
Ian Kennedy 	        D-backs 		76
Cole Hamels 	        Phillies 	  	17
Tim Lincecum 	        Giants 	     	         7
Yovani Gallardo         Brewers 	  	 5
Matt Cain 	        Giants 	  	  	 3
John Axford 	        Brewers 	         2
Craig Kimbrel 	        Braves 	  	         2
Madison Bumgarner 	Giants 	  	         1
Ryan Vogelsong 	        Giants 	  	         1
I've seen this list everywhere and I haven't seen Cueto anywhere on any of them. I'd love to be wrong though. I think he deserved a mention at least.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:00 PM   #12
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Clayton Kershaw     Dodgers            207
Roy Halladay             Phillies            133
Cliff Lee             Phillies           90
Ian Kennedy             D-backs         76
Cole Hamels             Phillies           17
Tim Lincecum             Giants                       7
Yovani Gallardo         Brewers            5
Matt Cain             Giants                  3
John Axford             Brewers              2
Craig Kimbrel             Braves                    2
Madison Bumgarner     Giants                    1
Ryan Vogelsong             Giants                    1
I've seen this list everywhere and I haven't seen Cueto anywhere on any of them. I'd love to be wrong though. I think he deserved a mention at least.
He missed too much of the season to get noticed. If he can stay healthy all season he will be in the running in the near future.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:36 PM   #13
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Clayton Kershaw 	Dodgers 	       207
Roy Halladay 	        Phillies 	       133
Cliff Lee 	        Phillies 	  	90
Ian Kennedy 	        D-backs 		76
Cole Hamels 	        Phillies 	  	17
Tim Lincecum 	        Giants 	     	         7
Yovani Gallardo         Brewers 	  	 5
Matt Cain 	        Giants 	  	  	 3
John Axford 	        Brewers 	         2
Craig Kimbrel 	        Braves 	  	         2
Madison Bumgarner 	Giants 	  	         1
Ryan Vogelsong 	        Giants 	  	         1
I've seen this list everywhere and I haven't seen Cueto anywhere on any of them. I'd love to be wrong though. I think he deserved a mention at least.
The Giants sure did have a darn good starting 4.
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I've seen this list everywhere and I haven't seen Cueto anywhere on any of them. I'd love to be wrong though. I think he deserved a mention at least.
My apologies SC, I pulled up a searched site for Cy Young....didn't catch that is was just a random fan site voting.

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No biggie bud. It just got me curious is all.
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