Reds Want Andrew Bailey - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

HalMorrisRules · 11-21-2011, 10:11 AM

Reports indicate that the Reds are looking to move forward from the Francisco Cordero era. The Reds are in talks with the A's to pick up closer Andrew Bailey. He seemed to rebound pretty well after his surgery in 2010. His WHIP has gone up every year but it is comparable to Cordero's WHIP and I am sure Bailey is much, much cheaper.

MLBTRADERUMORS

brad1176 · 11-21-2011, 10:19 AM

He's much cheaper and younger. I wonder if this could be part of a bigger trade with the A's, maybe get Gio or Cahill too?

TuneSquad · 11-21-2011, 10:28 AM

I like this idea, but I am not a big fan in dealing with Billy Bean because everyone knows how good of a GM is. I say take caution redlegs...

The DARK · 11-21-2011, 11:37 AM

Jocketty and Beane are both known to be very shrewd... but I really like this. Cordero's peripherals suggest a decline, and replacing an aging, $12 million/year closer with worsening peripherals with a young, first-time arb pitcher sounds like a great idea to me.

Lecure
Bray
Arredondo
Ondrusek
Masset
Bailey

That's not a bad place to start with a bullpen, especially if Arredondo keeps up his improvement. Fisher, Horst, and Burton can compete for that final spot, so next year we start to ease in Boxberger. Alternatively, since Fisher is out of options, we can include him in the deal to sweeten the pot. If one of the guys totally drops the ball, Box can be waiting in the wings.

I'd see if Grandal and Fisher are enough to get the job done.

izzy's dad · 11-21-2011, 01:30 PM

If Alonso is in the deal then I want more than Bailey. Alonso, Heisey, and our Bailey for Oakland's Bailey and Gio. Deal?

dMaus14 · 11-21-2011, 01:38 PM

I'd rather give up Volquez and another prospect instead of Bailey.

dMaus14 · 11-21-2011, 01:50 PM

Sorry I meant in the Alonso, Heisey and Bailey deal for Bailey and Gio

izzy's dad · 11-21-2011, 02:07 PM

I was just trying to make a more realistic trade offer. If I was a GM I wouldn't touch Volquez with a ten foot pole. Either way, I don't include Alonso in any deal that doesn't include a quality starting pitcher coming back our way.

FireDusty · 11-21-2011, 03:12 PM

I would plug in Boxberger as closer and forget about it.

Boxberger is ready to save 35 games right now......for league mimimum.

texasdave · 11-21-2011, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The DARK

Jocketty and Beane are both known to be very shrewd... but I really like this. Cordero's peripherals suggest a decline, and replacing an aging, $12 million/year closer with worsening peripherals with a young, first-time arb pitcher sounds like a great idea to me.

Lecure
Bray
Arredondo
Ondrusek
Masset
Bailey

That's not a bad place to start with a bullpen, especially if Arredondo keeps up his improvement. Fisher, Horst, and Burton can compete for that final spot, so next year we start to ease in Boxberger. Alternatively, since Fisher is out of options, we can include him in the deal to sweeten the pot. If one of the guys totally drops the ball, Box can be waiting in the wings.

I'd see if Grandal and Fisher are enough to get the job done.

Jared Burton is gone. He signed with the Twins.

HalMorrisRules · 11-21-2011, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dMaus14

I'd rather give up Volquez and another prospect instead of Bailey.

Volquez has no trade value. None, zilch, nada. To think otherwise is to look at the situation with Reds colored glasses on. There's a reason why Jayson Stark named him the 2011 NL Cy Yuk.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/70...aseball-season

bounty37h · 11-21-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalMorrisRules

Volquez has no trade value. None, zilch, nada. To think otherwise is to look at the situation with Reds colored glasses on. There's a reason why Jayson Stark named him the 2011 NL Cy Yuk.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/70...aseball-season

I think Tx fans thought that a few years back and look, they got an MVP for him

LegallyMinded · 11-21-2011, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by izzy's dad

If Alonso is in the deal then I want more than Bailey. Alonso, Heisey, and our Bailey for Oakland's Bailey and Gio. Deal?

This would be a great deal for both sides: It gives the As some major-league ready offense in Alonso, and also gives them, in Heisey, an outfielder to replace DeJesus, Crisp or Willingham. At the same time, it gives the Reds the starting pitching and bullpen help they need desperately need.

I suppose dealing Alonso and Heisey would leave a hole in LF for the Reds, but there are at least some indications that Sappelt could take over. Or are there other outfield options in the Reds' minor league system?

The DARK · 11-21-2011, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texasdave

Jared Burton is gone. He signed with the Twins.

Thanks for that update. Our bullpen is running a bit thin this year... a signing in addition to this trade might be in order.

The Rage · 11-21-2011, 08:47 PM

Why would the Reds want Gio? Left handed Volquez wannabe.

Besides. Nothing would stop the Bailey-Bailey connection

11-21-2011, 10:11 AM	#1
HalMorrisRules He sure could hit Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dayton Posts: 702	Reds Want Andrew Bailey Reports indicate that the Reds are looking to move forward from the Francisco Cordero era. The Reds are in talks with the A's to pick up closer Andrew Bailey. He seemed to rebound pretty well after his surgery in 2010. His WHIP has gone up every year but it is comparable to Cordero's WHIP and I am sure Bailey is much, much cheaper. MLBTRADERUMORS __________________ Check out SimLeague Baseball!

11-21-2011, 10:19 AM	#2
brad1176 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 280	Re: Reds Want Andrew Bailey He's much cheaper and younger. I wonder if this could be part of a bigger trade with the A's, maybe get Gio or Cahill too?

11-21-2011, 10:28 AM	#3
TuneSquad Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mariemont Posts: 35	Re: Reds Want Andrew Bailey I like this idea, but I am not a big fan in dealing with Billy Bean because everyone knows how good of a GM is. I say take caution redlegs...

11-21-2011, 11:37 AM	#4
The DARK Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 941	Re: Reds Want Andrew Bailey Jocketty and Beane are both known to be very shrewd... but I really like this. Cordero's peripherals suggest a decline, and replacing an aging, $12 million/year closer with worsening peripherals with a young, first-time arb pitcher sounds like a great idea to me. Lecure Bray Arredondo Ondrusek Masset Bailey That's not a bad place to start with a bullpen, especially if Arredondo keeps up his improvement. Fisher, Horst, and Burton can compete for that final spot, so next year we start to ease in Boxberger. Alternatively, since Fisher is out of options, we can include him in the deal to sweeten the pot. If one of the guys totally drops the ball, Box can be waiting in the wings. I'd see if Grandal and Fisher are enough to get the job done.

11-21-2011, 01:30 PM	#5
izzy's dad Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Charleston, Ohio Posts: 413	Re: Reds Want Andrew Bailey If Alonso is in the deal then I want more than Bailey. Alonso, Heisey, and our Bailey for Oakland's Bailey and Gio. Deal?

11-21-2011, 01:38 PM	#6
dMaus14 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 305	I'd rather give up Volquez and another prospect instead of Bailey.

11-21-2011, 01:50 PM	#7
dMaus14 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 305	Sorry I meant in the Alonso, Heisey and Bailey deal for Bailey and Gio

11-21-2011, 02:07 PM	#8
izzy's dad Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Charleston, Ohio Posts: 413	Re: Reds Want Andrew Bailey I was just trying to make a more realistic trade offer. If I was a GM I wouldn't touch Volquez with a ten foot pole. Either way, I don't include Alonso in any deal that doesn't include a quality starting pitcher coming back our way.

11-21-2011, 03:12 PM	#9
FireDusty Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dayton Posts: 297	Re: Reds Want Andrew Bailey I would plug in Boxberger as closer and forget about it. Boxberger is ready to save 35 games right now......for league mimimum.

11-21-2011, 08:47 PM	#15
The Rage Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 404	Re: Reds Want Andrew Bailey Why would the Reds want Gio? Left handed Volquez wannabe. Besides. Nothing would stop the Bailey-Bailey connection

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode