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camisadelgolf · 11-29-2011, 06:21 PM

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mace · 11-29-2011, 06:49 PM

I have to say: James Allen was not a name I expected to see at this point. But I guess it's understandable, and impressively out-of-the-box. I like the additions of Chacin and Hayes, and would nominate Tim Crabbe.

Meanwhile: Barnhart. I originally had him at #10.

dougdirt · 11-29-2011, 07:42 PM

I am taking Gabriel Rosa here. I simply love his swing and offensive potential. There isn't much data to go on, but the Reds certainly felt he was worth a 2nd round pick this past season and that is plenty enough for me to add to what I see that he is a strong pick here.

mth123 · 11-29-2011, 07:54 PM

I was ready to vote for Daniel Renken here, but he dropped off the list. 22 year old who made 26 starts at 2 levels. In 20 starts at Dayton he had an FIP of 3.05 with over 11 K/9 and just ovwer 3 BB/9. It wasn't luck. is BABIP was .326.

dougdirt · 11-29-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mth123

I was ready to vote for Daniel Renken here, but he dropped off the list. 22 year old who made 26 starts at 2 levels. In 20 starts at Dayton he had an FIP of 3.05 with over 11 K/9 and just ovwer 3 BB/9. It wasn't luck. is BABIP was .326.

Profiles as a Sam LeCure type if things continue to go right for him. Stuff is fringe average. Solid guy to have. Not a top 25 prospect.

REDblooded · 11-29-2011, 08:11 PM

Rosa - Same as Doug... Not much to go off of here, but I've seen sites with him ranked as high as 13th in the Reds system... Bat speed looks nice. Raw, high-ceiling potential.

camisadelgolf · 11-29-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

I am taking Gabriel Rosa here. I simply love his swing and offensive potential. There isn't much data to go on, but the Reds certainly felt he was worth a 2nd round pick this past season and that is plenty enough for me to add to what I see that he is a strong pick here.

You think he'll stick at third base? If not, where does he go?

thatcoolguy_22 · 11-29-2011, 08:25 PM

Juan Duran again. Massive power potential. He is still working through his last growth spurt and will start to put on additional muscle soon. He has the highest ceiling of available players by far and its not even close, IMO.

Kc61 · 11-29-2011, 08:31 PM

I know Doug and others think Juan Duran is too raw to go this high.

But I think most teams would have him in the top fifteen if not a bit higher.

Duran at age 19 had 16 homers and 71 RBI in 367 official at bats at Dayton. A .792 OPS.

The guy obviously is a project, he isn't near ready. But at age 19 he had an excellent power/RBI season at Low A ball.

High upside, good performance, young for his level, highly touted when acquired.

So I got Juan Duran here.

REDblooded · 11-29-2011, 08:34 PM

I had a lot of love for Duran... Just afraid that he's grown too much to ever control the plate... He's just too tall.

Kc61 · 11-29-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by REDblooded

I had a lot of love for Duran... Just afraid that he's grown too much to ever control the plate... He's just too tall.

You just coined a nickname. Juan "Too Tall" Duran.

Can he rush the passer?

HokieRed · 11-29-2011, 08:41 PM

Tough call for me. I really like Rosa, thought the pick was fabulous, and I'm very impressed by the way Phipps came on last year--ought to be at least a good 4th outfielder type. But I'm going with Sulbaran--21 years old at High A with terrific peripherals in a hitter's league and ballpark. 137 innings, 155K/50W, only 10 HR's. My breakout candidate of the year for 2012 (perhaps along with Rosa).

dougdirt · 11-29-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

You think he'll stick at third base? If not, where does he go?

I haven't seen him over there, so I have no idea if he will stick there or not. But outfield is always an option for him and right now at least, he has good speed and a strong arm.

bubbachunk · 11-29-2011, 09:49 PM

I was a big Duran supporter the last two years but not enough of that potential has yet been turned into production compared to so many other guys available.

Went with JC considering his season in Bakersfield

RedsManRick · 11-29-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HokieRed

Tough call for me. I really like Rosa, thought the pick was fabulous, and I'm very impressed by the way Phipps came on last year--ought to be at least a good 4th outfielder type. But I'm going with Sulbaran--21 years old at High A with terrific peripherals in a hitter's league and ballpark. 137 innings, 155K/50W, only 10 HR's. My breakout candidate of the year for 2012 (perhaps along with Rosa).

Ditto. 3:1 ratio and few homers in a hitters park. Will be in AA at 22 and even has some big game experience. Yeah, he's probably a back-end of the rotation guy, but I think he's got a pretty high floor.

View Poll Results: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect?
RHP James Allen	0	0%
C Tucker Barnhart	7	11.29%
RHP Alejandro Chacin	0	0%
LHP Tony Cingrani	19	30.65%
OF Juan Duran	17	27.42%
UT Brodie Greene	1	1.61%
RHP Drew Hayes	0	0%
LHP Donnie Joseph	0	0%
OF Ryan LaMarre	4	6.45%
RHP Kyle Lotzkar	2	3.23%
OF Denis Phipps	3	4.84%
UT Cody Puckett	0	0%
3B Gabriel Rosa	3	4.84%
RHP J.C. Sulbaran	5	8.06%
2B Ryan Wright	0	0%
other (please list below)	1	1.61%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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11-29-2011, 06:21 PM	#1
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? #1 C Devin Mesoraco #2 1B/OF Yonder Alonso #3 C Yasmani Grandal #4 SS Billy Hamilton #5 SS Zack Cozart #6 RHP Dan Corcino #7 RHP Robert Stephenson #8 RHP Brad Boxberger #9 1B Neftali Soto #10 OF Yorman Rodriguez #11 2B Ron Torreyes #12 OF Dave Sappelt #13 UT Todd Frazier #14 SS Didi Gregorius #15 2B Henry Rodriguez

11-29-2011, 06:49 PM	#2
mace Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,223	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? I have to say: James Allen was not a name I expected to see at this point. But I guess it's understandable, and impressively out-of-the-box. I like the additions of Chacin and Hayes, and would nominate Tim Crabbe. Meanwhile: Barnhart. I originally had him at #10.

11-29-2011, 07:42 PM	#3
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31,095	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? I am taking Gabriel Rosa here. I simply love his swing and offensive potential. There isn't much data to go on, but the Reds certainly felt he was worth a 2nd round pick this past season and that is plenty enough for me to add to what I see that he is a strong pick here. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

11-29-2011, 07:54 PM	#4
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,912	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? I was ready to vote for Daniel Renken here, but he dropped off the list. 22 year old who made 26 starts at 2 levels. In 20 starts at Dayton he had an FIP of 3.05 with over 11 K/9 and just ovwer 3 BB/9. It wasn't luck. is BABIP was .326. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

11-29-2011, 08:11 PM	#6
REDblooded Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,127	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? Rosa - Same as Doug... Not much to go off of here, but I've seen sites with him ranked as high as 13th in the Reds system... Bat speed looks nice. Raw, high-ceiling potential. __________________ 2010 Mock Draft Selections (picking for Rays) Bryce Brentz Brandon Workman Kris Bryant Matt Lipka Rick Hague

11-29-2011, 08:25 PM	#8
thatcoolguy_22 Battle Toad Historian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pyeongtaek, ROK Posts: 1,659	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? Juan Duran again. Massive power potential. He is still working through his last growth spurt and will start to put on additional muscle soon. He has the highest ceiling of available players by far and its not even close, IMO. __________________ A lil more east than most on this board.

11-29-2011, 08:31 PM	#9
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,043	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? I know Doug and others think Juan Duran is too raw to go this high. But I think most teams would have him in the top fifteen if not a bit higher. Duran at age 19 had 16 homers and 71 RBI in 367 official at bats at Dayton. A .792 OPS. The guy obviously is a project, he isn't near ready. But at age 19 he had an excellent power/RBI season at Low A ball. High upside, good performance, young for his level, highly touted when acquired. So I got Juan Duran here. Last edited by Kc61; 11-29-2011 at 08:33 PM.

11-29-2011, 08:34 PM	#10
REDblooded Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,127	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? I had a lot of love for Duran... Just afraid that he's grown too much to ever control the plate... He's just too tall. __________________ 2010 Mock Draft Selections (picking for Rays) Bryce Brentz Brandon Workman Kris Bryant Matt Lipka Rick Hague

11-29-2011, 08:41 PM	#12
HokieRed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,105	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? Tough call for me. I really like Rosa, thought the pick was fabulous, and I'm very impressed by the way Phipps came on last year--ought to be at least a good 4th outfielder type. But I'm going with Sulbaran--21 years old at High A with terrific peripherals in a hitter's league and ballpark. 137 innings, 155K/50W, only 10 HR's. My breakout candidate of the year for 2012 (perhaps along with Rosa).

11-29-2011, 09:49 PM	#14
bubbachunk Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cincinnati/Athens Posts: 580	Re: Who is Redszone's #16 prospect? I was a big Duran supporter the last two years but not enough of that potential has yet been turned into production compared to so many other guys available. Went with JC considering his season in Bakersfield __________________ "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"