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jojo · 04-07-2011, 10:33 AM

Here's a nice summary of how the Bonds perjury trial unfolded as closing arguments and jury deliberation begin:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rial-analysis/

Given the verdict is near, here's a simple poll asking how you think it WILL turn out. This isn't about how it SHOULD turn out giving your opinion on Bonds and steroids etc but rather, what you think the jury will do given how the trial unfolded?

Mario-Rijo · 04-07-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jojo

Here's a nice summary of how the Bonds perjury trial unfolded as closing arguments and jury deliberation begin:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rial-analysis/

Given the verdict is near, here's a simple poll asking how you think it WILL turn out. This isn't about how it SHOULD turn out giving your opinion on Bonds and steroids etc but rather, what you think the jury will do given how the trial unfolded?

To be quite fair no matter how I feel about him personally I think he was found guilty before he walked into the court room.

Caveat Emperor · 04-07-2011, 06:07 PM

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" is a tough standard.

Not guilty.

defender · 04-12-2011, 03:05 PM

If I would have voted on the 7th, it would have been "not guilty". I think if the jury were inclined toward not guilty, they would have done it by now.

Chip R · 04-12-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by defender

If I would have voted on the 7th, it would have been "not guilty". I think if the jury were inclined toward not guilty, they would have done it by now.

Seems like there may be a holdout or two on the jury if there hasn't been a verdict yet. That bodes well for Bonds.

Slyder · 04-12-2011, 04:06 PM

The longer this drags out the worst it is for Barry. They will find him guilty on at least 1 count on the back of the "personal shopper" testimony.

jojo · 04-12-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip R

Seems like there may be a holdout or two on the jury if there hasn't been a verdict yet. That bodes well for Bonds.

defender · 04-13-2011, 01:12 PM

Anything less than one day of deliberation per week of trial is usually good for the defense, because it is easier to find not guilty. Since it was a 3 week trial, day 3 (yesterday) and day 4 (today) would be the most likely days to hammer out a conviction.

At this point, the most likely outcome is a conviction today. If it goes past today, it would be an indication of a serious split, and better news for Bonds.

Simon Rhymon · 04-13-2011, 05:27 PM

Based on some of the testimony the jury requested to be read to them, I'd be inclined to think he'll get nailed on at least one count. And I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least one juror who is saying if Bonds says he is innocent, why didn't he testify ... despite the judge's instructions.

jojo · 04-13-2011, 05:45 PM

Guilty on one charge, mistrial on the others....

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6347014

Reds Nd2 · 04-13-2011, 08:42 PM

Are the Feds still investigating Bonds for tax evasion?

Cedric · 04-14-2011, 08:20 AM

Reasonable doubt is getting stretched incredibly thin, IMO. I'm glad people take their jury responsibilites seriously but I don't think anyone truly understands REASONABLE doubt.

And one juror today said "I think the prosecution was trying to hard to find Bonds guilty."

That might be the single dumbest quote in the history of man.

Simon Rhymon · 04-14-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cedric

And one juror today said "I think the prosecution was trying to hard to find Bonds guilty."

That might be the single dumbest quote in the history of man.

Was that person also on the OJ jury?

bucksfan2 · 04-14-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cedric

Reasonable doubt is getting stretched incredibly thin, IMO. I'm glad people take their jury responsibilites seriously but I don't think anyone truly understands REASONABLE doubt.

And one juror today said "I think the prosecution was trying to hard to find Bonds guilty."

That might be the single dumbest quote in the history of man.

I don't really mind this comment. It doesn't really apply to this situation because Bonds had a very good defense team, but in other situations I think it can be very dangerous. I don't really like when you get the feeling that the prosecution is throwing everything and the kitchen sink at a defendant. I want a fair trial, not one when the prosecution is pulling out all the stops.

jojo · 12-16-2011, 05:31 PM

Bump...

I can't imagine the prosecution is beating their chests over the resolution of this issue...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/16/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2

Ultimately, when considering if it was worth it, I can't get past the money the government spent on this investigation... I'd say no.

View Poll Results: How will the jury decide?
Not guilty	6	25.00%
Guilty on all charges	3	12.50%
Guilty on at least one charge	11	45.83%
Hung jury	4	16.67%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

04-07-2011, 10:33 AM	#1
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,574	Bonds Trial Poll Here's a nice summary of how the Bonds perjury trial unfolded as closing arguments and jury deliberation begin: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rial-analysis/ Given the verdict is near, here's a simple poll asking how you think it WILL turn out. This isn't about how it SHOULD turn out giving your opinion on Bonds and steroids etc but rather, what you think the jury will do given how the trial unfolded? __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

04-07-2011, 06:07 PM	#3
Caveat Emperor Titanic Struggles Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The 513 Posts: 12,135	Re: Bonds Trial Poll "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is a tough standard. Not guilty. __________________ Championships Matter. 22 Years and Counting...

04-12-2011, 03:05 PM	#4
defender Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 277	Re: Bonds Trial Poll If I would have voted on the 7th, it would have been "not guilty". I think if the jury were inclined toward not guilty, they would have done it by now.

04-13-2011, 01:12 PM	#8
defender Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 277	Re: Bonds Trial Poll Anything less than one day of deliberation per week of trial is usually good for the defense, because it is easier to find not guilty. Since it was a 3 week trial, day 3 (yesterday) and day 4 (today) would be the most likely days to hammer out a conviction. At this point, the most likely outcome is a conviction today. If it goes past today, it would be an indication of a serious split, and better news for Bonds.

04-13-2011, 05:27 PM	#9
Simon Rhymon real baseball - No DH Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: New England Posts: 63	Re: Bonds Trial Poll Based on some of the testimony the jury requested to be read to them, I'd be inclined to think he'll get nailed on at least one count. And I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least one juror who is saying if Bonds says he is innocent, why didn't he testify ... despite the judge's instructions.

04-13-2011, 05:45 PM	#10
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,574	Re: Bonds Trial Poll Guilty on one charge, mistrial on the others.... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6347014 __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

04-13-2011, 08:42 PM	#11
Reds Nd2 Little Reds BandWagon Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,244	Re: Bonds Trial Poll Are the Feds still investigating Bonds for tax evasion? __________________ "...You just have a wider lens than one game." --Former Reds GM Wayne Krivsky, on why he didn't fly Josh Hamilton to Colorado for one game. "...its money well-spent. Don't screw around with your freedom." --Roy Tucker, on why you need to lawyer up when you find yourself swimming with sharks.

04-14-2011, 08:20 AM	#12
Cedric Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Monroe Posts: 6,218	Re: Bonds Trial Poll Reasonable doubt is getting stretched incredibly thin, IMO. I'm glad people take their jury responsibilites seriously but I don't think anyone truly understands REASONABLE doubt. And one juror today said "I think the prosecution was trying to hard to find Bonds guilty." That might be the single dumbest quote in the history of man. __________________ This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

12-16-2011, 05:31 PM	#15
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,574	Re: Bonds Trial Poll Bump... I can't imagine the prosecution is beating their chests over the resolution of this issue... http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/16/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2 Ultimately, when considering if it was worth it, I can't get past the money the government spent on this investigation... I'd say no. __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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