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dMaus14 · 01-05-2012, 09:50 PM

I know before the major trades that happened for the Reds this offseason there were people who were questioning if Walt knew what he was doing but is there a more clueless person managing a team than Kenny Williams with the White Sox.

He claimed Alex Rios on waivers with his ridiculous contract which is understandable if he was in his last two years but he has 4 years left on his contract.

He traded Daniel Hudson to the DBacks for Edwin Jackson.

Signed Adam Dunn to a ridiculous contract.

He traded a good and extremely cheap closer for a TOR arm that is 2 years away which signaled it was a rebuilding mode only to turn around and extend John Danks. Then traded Carlos Quentin to the Padres for basically nothing.

Trades Jason Frasor back to the BlueJays after trading for him this summer.

He had the talent to trade to reload the their farm system but he messed it up some how!

Red Raindog · 01-05-2012, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dMaus14

I know before the major trades that happened for the Reds this offseason there were people who were questioning if Walt knew what he was doing but is there a more clueless person managing a team than Kenny Williams with the White Sox.

He claimed Alex Rios on waivers with his ridiculous contract which is understandable if he was in his last two years but he has 4 years left on his contract.

He traded Daniel Hudson to the DBacks for Edwin Jackson.

Signed Adam Dunn to a ridiculous contract.

He traded a good and extremely cheap closer for a TOR arm that is 2 years away which signaled it was a rebuilding mode only to turn around and extend John Danks. Then traded Carlos Quentin to the Padres for basically nothing.

Trades Jason Frasor back to the BlueJays after trading for him this summer.

He had the talent to trade to reload the their farm system but he messed it up some how!

It could be a long group of summers in Chi Town coming up.

BEETTLEBUG · 01-06-2012, 05:50 AM

Let's Trade for Alex Rios put him in LF no platoon.

alett12 · 01-06-2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dMaus14

I know before the major trades that happened for the Reds this offseason there were people who were questioning if Walt knew what he was doing but is there a more clueless person managing a team than Kenny Williams with the White Sox.

He claimed Alex Rios on waivers with his ridiculous contract which is understandable if he was in his last two years but he has 4 years left on his contract.

He traded Daniel Hudson to the DBacks for Edwin Jackson.

Signed Adam Dunn to a ridiculous contract.

He traded a good and extremely cheap closer for a TOR arm that is 2 years away which signaled it was a rebuilding mode only to turn around and extend John Danks. Then traded Carlos Quentin to the Padres for basically nothing.

Trades Jason Frasor back to the BlueJays after trading for him this summer.

He had the talent to trade to reload the their farm system but he messed it up some how!

You forgot trading their closer, Sergio Santos to the blue jays for some scrub.

Old NDN · 01-07-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BEETTLEBUG

Let's Trade for Alex Rios put him in LF no platoon.

What do the Reds have left that the White Sox would want, or Walt (and the Redzone GMs) would be willing to part with? How much salary could the Reds afford to absorb?

dMaus14 · 01-07-2012, 04:18 PM

I don't know what we have or what Walt would be willing to part with but if you go off of Cots Baseball Contracts (which doesn't take into account the deferred money), using MLBTR arbitration projections and minimum salaries we have $75.8M on the payroll right now. Now if you taken into account deferred contracts of Rolen, Votto and Arroyo we should have $66.8M on the books for 2012. I'm not in the Reds FO so I don't have specifics on salaries I'm just going off of what I have found. So really we have anywhere. Between $9-19M to spend.

But we have to save some for Phillips extension. We still need a closer and we need a back up infielder who can hit and hopefully a middle of the order bat.

As for Rios, the dude has like 4 years left on his ridiculous contract of $17M a year. No thanks!

Hondo · 01-12-2012, 08:42 PM

I'd Trade Brandon Phillips for Gordon Beckham and some Prospects...

I think Beckham will be the REAL DEAL...

alett12 · 01-13-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondo

I'd Trade Brandon Phillips for Gordon Beckham and some Prospects...

I think Beckham will be the REAL DEAL...

As a fantasy owner who had both last year, this is a bad idea. I would rather go for alexi and move cozart to 2nd

01-05-2012, 09:50 PM	#1
dMaus14 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 305	Chicago White Sox ... I know before the major trades that happened for the Reds this offseason there were people who were questioning if Walt knew what he was doing but is there a more clueless person managing a team than Kenny Williams with the White Sox. He claimed Alex Rios on waivers with his ridiculous contract which is understandable if he was in his last two years but he has 4 years left on his contract. He traded Daniel Hudson to the DBacks for Edwin Jackson. Signed Adam Dunn to a ridiculous contract. He traded a good and extremely cheap closer for a TOR arm that is 2 years away which signaled it was a rebuilding mode only to turn around and extend John Danks. Then traded Carlos Quentin to the Padres for basically nothing. Trades Jason Frasor back to the BlueJays after trading for him this summer. He had the talent to trade to reload the their farm system but he messed it up some how!

01-06-2012, 05:50 AM	#3
BEETTLEBUG Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WEST CARROLLTON OHIO Posts: 1,227	Re: Chicago White Sox ... Let's Trade for Alex Rios put him in LF no platoon.

01-12-2012, 08:42 PM	#7
Hondo Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Weatherford, Texas Posts: 2,124	Re: Chicago White Sox ... I'd Trade Brandon Phillips for Gordon Beckham and some Prospects... I think Beckham will be the REAL DEAL...

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01-07-2012, 04:18 PM	#6
dMaus14 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 305	I don't know what we have or what Walt would be willing to part with but if you go off of Cots Baseball Contracts (which doesn't take into account the deferred money), using MLBTR arbitration projections and minimum salaries we have $75.8M on the payroll right now. Now if you taken into account deferred contracts of Rolen, Votto and Arroyo we should have $66.8M on the books for 2012. I'm not in the Reds FO so I don't have specifics on salaries I'm just going off of what I have found. So really we have anywhere. Between $9-19M to spend. But we have to save some for Phillips extension. We still need a closer and we need a back up infielder who can hit and hopefully a middle of the order bat. As for Rios, the dude has like 4 years left on his ridiculous contract of $17M a year. No thanks!