Indiana 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 Basketball

[Boston Red]

Originally Posted by Assembly Hall

However, you always have to wonder what Crean's point of view might be on that.

Crean should thank Sampson and his staff every day for giving him the opportunity at IU. That SHOULD be his POV.

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by Razor Shines

Whoa, so after he became the coach of one of your conference rivals you started to like him less? I am totally shocked by that, flabbergasted! Let me guess he didn't bother you as much early in his time at IU while they were the bed pan of the conference, but I bet sometime last year something strange happened and he became more and annoying. Very strange.

Well, you'll have that when you don't really know who the guy is until he forces himself on you. It took more exposure to reveal what a goofball Crean is, and while most goofballs are fun for sport, he is of the type that wants to upplay his accomplishments so that the whole world can see what a great coach and guy he is, which is sickening. Hang that banner, "we've" (when he really means I've) accomplished so much. Aren't "we" (when he really means I) great!

And with all the "I can put up with his annoyances because he's winning" will be what the "faithful" will use to ask for his head when the struggles come. Lather, rinse, repeat. It happens everywhere.

By the way, its all fun and games now, but we are talking about one conference championship here. And he is hailed as king. You folks are suddenly easy to please.

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by Razor Shines

Whoa, so after he became the coach of one of your conference rivals you started to like him less? I am totally shocked by that, flabbergasted! Let me guess he didn't bother you as much early in his time at IU while they were the bed pan of the conference, but I bet sometime last year something strange happened and he became more and annoying. Very strange.

Whoa there buddy. I have a great deal of respect for guys like Izzo and Ryan. I hate playing both of those teams but respect the heck out of those guys. I am also a pretty big UC fan and Marquette for a long time was a primary rival and liked Crean then.

Did I care when IU was bad under Crean, not really but then again I didn't really make time out of my day to watch IU play OSU so I wasn't privy to his antics.

[cumberlandreds]

Originally Posted by Boston Red

Crean should thank Sampson and his staff every day for giving him the opportunity at IU. That SHOULD be his POV.

Exactly. He should have went up to that Michigan assistant,shook his hand and whole heartily thanked him for him and the others, at that time, for messing up the program. Without that Crean would have still been at Marquette looking for the next Dwayne Wade.

[Razor Shines]

I actually am not that concerned about OSU fans think of Crean. I was trying to be funny, which I accomplished.

I'm not that concerned with him being a goofball either. As with the cutting down nets and separate banner deal, I just don't take it that seriously. Are we hailing him as King already? I wasn't officially informed but that's cool, I'll start praying to him tonight.


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[WMR]

IU needs to give him a raise so he can afford a pair of pants that fit.

He looked utterly deranged after being dragged away from the UM assistant.

[Razor Shines]

I tell you who annoys me though. That Thad Matta. Geez. That male pattern baldness and stuff. I mean come on we get it you're proud of your scalp, do you really have to call attention to it like that? Oh my gosh.

And what's with his substitutions? I mean at several times throughout the game he'll just take a guy out and put another guy in, just switch players!! Come on, just pick 5 guys and stick with them.

And then, and then he thinks he can just stop the game when his team has the ball. Like he'll go up to one of the striped players (who never get to shoot and rarely play defense) and put his hands together to make a what looks like "T" and just stop the game! And the other team allows him to do this. Talk about thinking you're a king. Geez, what a pervert.


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[Razor Shines]

Originally Posted by WMR

IU needs to give him a raise so he can afford a pair of pants that fit.

He looked utterly deranged after being dragged away from the UM assistant.

That was a show. It raised money for charity. Don't you feel like a jerk now?


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[WMR]

Originally Posted by Razor Shines

That was a show. It raised money for charity. Don't you feel like a jerk now?


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How many schrutebucks did he raise?

[Razor Shines]

Originally Posted by WMR

How many schrutebucks did he raise?

What I meant to say was "awareness". Look kids just because you have Tourette's doesn't mean you can't coach a major college basketball team.


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[Revering4Blue]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Well, you'll have that when you don't really know who the guy is until he forces himself on you. It took more exposure to reveal what a goofball Crean is, and while most goofballs are fun for sport, he is of the type that wants to upplay his accomplishments so that the whole world can see what a great coach and guy he is, which is sickening. Hang that banner, "we've" (when he really means I've) accomplished so much. Aren't "we" (when he really means I) great!

And with all the "I can put up with his annoyances because he's winning" will be what the "faithful" will use to ask for his head when the struggles come. Lather, rinse, repeat. It happens everywhere.

By the way, its all fun and games now, but we are talking about one conference championship here. And he is hailed as king. You folks are suddenly easy to please.

See, for the most part, I've witnessed just the opposite line of thinking here.

IU could go 32-0 and win the Championship under CTC and some folks would still state the following: Yeah, but imagine what (Bob Knight, Brad Stevens, or any other Coach Du Jour) would have done with that team.

Honestly, there is a faction of the IU fanbase that reminds me of the faction of the Packer fan base actually rooting against their own team in the Super Bowl two years ago, just to prove that their (inane) reasoning that the Packers shouldn't have allowed Brett Favre to leave was correct.

According to "fans" like the above, when IU loses it is always Tom Crean's fault; never the result of poor player execution.

No, CTC doesn't walk on water, but that line of "reasoning" gets old in a hurry.

[Razor Shines]

Originally Posted by cumberlandreds

Exactly. He should have went up to that Michigan assistant,shook his hand and whole heartily thanked him for him and the others, at that time, for messing up the program. Without that Crean would have still been at Marquette looking for the next Dwayne Wade.

Come on now. It took him two years to become Dwyane Wade, don't take him back.

[Razor Shines]

Originally Posted by Revering4Blue

See, for the most part, I've witnessed just the opposite line of thinking here.

IU could go 32-0 and win the Championship under CTC and some folks would still state the following: Yeah, but imagine what (Bob Knight, Brad Stevens, or any other Coach Du Jour) would have done with that team.

Honestly, there is a faction of the IU fanbase that reminds me of the faction of the Packer fan base actually rooting against their own team in the Super Bowl two years ago, just to prove that their (inane) reasoning that the Packers shouldn't have allowed Brett Favre to leave was correct.

According to "fans" like the above, when IU loses it is always Tom Crean's fault; never the result of poor player execution.

No, CTC doesn't walk on water, but that line of "reasoning" gets old in a hurry.

So much truth in this.

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by Revering4Blue

See, for the most part, I've witnessed just the opposite line of thinking here.

IU could go 32-0 and win the Championship under CTC and some folks would still state the following: Yeah, but imagine what (Bob Knight, Brad Stevens, or any other Coach Du Jour) would have done with that team.

Honestly, there is a faction of the IU fanbase that reminds me of the faction of the Packer fan base actually rooting against their own team in the Super Bowl two years ago, just to prove that their (inane) reasoning that the Packers shouldn't have allowed Brett Favre to leave was correct.

According to "fans" like the above, when IU loses it is always Tom Crean's fault; never the result of poor player execution.

No, CTC doesn't walk on water, but that line of "reasoning" gets old in a hurry.

I can only speak to what I read from two different posters in this thread. What you mention above is not an attitude I've read about in this thread.

[Hoosier Red]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Well, you'll have that when you don't really know who the guy is until he forces himself on you. It took more exposure to reveal what a goofball Crean is, and while most goofballs are fun for sport, he is of the type that wants to upplay his accomplishments so that the whole world can see what a great coach and guy he is, which is sickening. Hang that banner, "we've" (when he really means I've) accomplished so much. Aren't "we" (when he really means I) great!

And with all the "I can put up with his annoyances because he's winning" will be what the "faithful" will use to ask for his head when the struggles come. Lather, rinse, repeat. It happens everywhere.

By the way, its all fun and games now, but we are talking about one conference championship here. And he is hailed as king. You folks are suddenly easy to please.

I certainly haven't hailed him as a king, and I think I've been fairly consistent in the approach of, "Okay, celebrate this stuff this time because it was a long hard slog, but no more excessive celebrations now that you're back at the top, you're expected to stay there."

As for the winning and losing, I think you make my point. I'm not really defending his personality tics which are moderately annoying, but rather focusing on what I as a fan am asking him to do.