Reds players without options

[jmt5887]

*Since it will likely be asked often over the next two months, here is the list of the Reds players that are out of options:

Jose Arredondo
Bronson Arroyo
Homer Bailey
Bill Bray
Miguel Cairo
Carlos Fisher
Juan Francisco
Nick Masset
Brandon Phillips
Wilson Valdez

source reds.com

[alett12]

Valdez is also not on the 40 man roster so as long as he isn't put on it he can be sent back down to the minors. It's about time Fisher ran out though i mean seriously how many times has he been up and down in the last 2 years.

[kg112686]

Originally Posted by alett12

Valdez is also not on the 40 man roster so as long as he isn't put on it he can be sent back down to the minors.

According to the Reds website Valdez is on the 40 man roster. He took Horst's spot when they were traded for each other right?

[Big Red Hoss]

That is correct. Horst off and Valdez on.

[Big Red Hoss]

Originally Posted by alett12

Valdez is also not on the 40 man roster so as long as he isn't put on it he can be sent back down to the minors. It's about time Fisher ran out though i mean seriously how many times has he been up and down in the last 2 years.

Its almost been unfair what they have done to Fisher. The guy has been abused at the majors and is sent up and down more then an elevator. He hasn't had a been given any period in the majors to prove what he can do. When he has been at AAA for any given length he has shown to be very effective. If they put him on waivers he would be sucked up very quickly.

[alett12]

My bad, I though they outrighted Horst off the 40 man then resigned him to a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. You can't say fisher hasn't really had a chance because we was dusty's everyday guy for a while a couple years ago and if he has any real value I see them shipping him off in a deal for someone.

[Big Red Hoss]

I see him with having plenty of value. He has good stuff. I think dusty abused him. How many times did he throw him in a game late when it was a lost game because he didn't want to use some of the other guys even though fisher pitched the to nights before. Then this past year fisher pitched 3 ings of a game then dusty throws him out for another 6 in the long game against Philly where he throws 95 pitches. He went downhill after that last year. Guys career era is under 5. thats pretty good for a bullpen guy.

[RedsfaninMT]

Originally Posted by Big Red Hoss

I see him with having plenty of value. He has good stuff. I think dusty abused him. How many times did he throw him in a game late when it was a lost game because he didn't want to use some of the other guys even though fisher pitched the to nights before. Then this past year fisher pitched 3 ings of a game then dusty throws him out for another 6 in the long game against Philly where he throws 95 pitches. He went downhill after that last year. Guys career era is under 5. thats pretty good for a bullpen guy.

I agree that Dusty abused him, but C'mon Man! A career ERA of 5.00+ from a reliever is pitiful.

[alett12]

I mean he wasnt bad in Louisville but I don't see him ace a really good guy for the reds pen

[jwmann2]

Originally Posted by Big Red Hoss

Its almost been unfair what they have done to Fisher. The guy has been abused at the majors and is sent up and down more then an elevator. He hasn't had a been given any period in the majors to prove what he can do. When he has been at AAA for any given length he has shown to be very effective. If they put him on waivers he would be sucked up very quickly.

I've been impressed with him. He played very well in the 19 inning game against the Phillies last season.

[The DARK]

Originally Posted by Big Red Hoss

Its almost been unfair what they have done to Fisher. The guy has been abused at the majors and is sent up and down more then an elevator. He hasn't had a been given any period in the majors to prove what he can do. When he has been at AAA for any given length he has shown to be very effective. If they put him on waivers he would be sucked up very quickly.

I agree that he hasn't gotten much of a chance, but it seems that the major league clubs feel differently about him. He was outrighted to AAA earlier this offseason after clearing waivers.