Reds players who are out of options... - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

_Sir_Charles_ · 02-01-2012, 02:20 PM

I know this is something that ALWAYS comes up here, and since Mark Sheldon was kind enough to post the info, here's a good place to post it. :O)

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*Since it will likely be asked often over the next two months, here is the list of the Reds players that are out of options:
Jose Arredondo
Bronson Arroyo
Homer Bailey
Bill Bray
Miguel Cairo
Carlos Fisher
Juan Francisco
Nick Masset
Brandon Phillips
Wilson Valdez

Vottomatic · 02-01-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

I know this is something that ALWAYS comes up here, and since Mark Sheldon was kind enough to post the info, here's a good place to post it. :O)

Good. Because we may need to send Votto or Bruce down to get their offense going.

savafan · 02-01-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vottomatic

Good. Because we may need to send Votto or Bruce down to get their offense going.

Rolen also.

mace · 02-01-2012, 03:02 PM

Seems like a tenuous position for Carlos Fisher to be in. Especially with Ryan Ludwick needing a spot on the 40-man. (At least, it looks that way according to the roster on reds.com.)

Roy Tucker · 02-01-2012, 03:12 PM

What about Wily Mo Pena?

klw · 02-01-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Tucker

What about Wily Mo Pena?

They reworked his contract.

RED VAN HOT · 02-01-2012, 04:52 PM

I had thought that Frazier would have a decent shot because he can play both 3B and OF and even 2B and SS in an emergency, but seeing that Francisco is out of options changes that. Barring injuries or a fantastic spring, it looks as if Janish, Frazier, and Phipps will be headed to AAA. That would mean 4 OF and 7 IF. Not happy with Valdez staying on the 25 and getting some starts at SS, but it is shaping up that way.

TRF · 02-01-2012, 05:34 PM

I wonder if the Reds could have Leased Wily Mo to Japan for two seasons.

I'm only half joking. You can't send him down to affiliated minor league baseball without him clearing waivers, but you can SELL his contract. Or could have, like they did Blalentein. But what if they just leased his contract?

Unless there is a legal precedent as to why they can't, I suppose if the player agreed, it would be possible.

mth123 · 02-01-2012, 08:47 PM

Paul Janish is conspicuous by his absence on this list. So Valdez makes the roster as the 25th man and Janish is optioned to AAA to play SS every day. If Cozart goes down, they'll be glad they have both to split the role while playing championship caliber defense and not just one of them to flail away each day. They both have a much better chance at productivity if they can keep the PT down to 3 days per week.

Hopefully Cozart plays 150 games and these two become an insurance policy that doesn't need to be used.

Mario-Rijo · 02-01-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mace

Seems like a tenuous position for Carlos Fisher to be in. Especially with Ryan Ludwick needing a spot on the 40-man. (At least, it looks that way according to the roster on reds.com.)

Well I think Negron gets moved off the 40 for Ludwick but Fisher isn't real likely to make the team all the rest of these guys are in a good spot to make it though.

Maybe they can deal both Negron and Fisher for a better arm than Fisher with options. Then again Fisher could make the roster I suppose given an injury.

RED VAN HOT · 02-01-2012, 10:13 PM

I'm confused about the rules. When must Ludwick be added? If he is on a major league contract, shouldn't he have been added when he signed?

cinreds21 · 02-02-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT

I'm confused about the rules. When must Ludwick be added? If he is on a major league contract, shouldn't he have been added when he signed?

That's usually the case, but I've noticed this off-season that teams (not just the Reds) have been extremely slow to making everything official.

02-01-2012, 03:02 PM	#4
mace Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,167	Re: Reds players who are out of options... Seems like a tenuous position for Carlos Fisher to be in. Especially with Ryan Ludwick needing a spot on the 40-man. (At least, it looks that way according to the roster on reds.com.)

02-01-2012, 03:12 PM	#5
Roy Tucker Be the ball Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mason, OH Posts: 11,123	Re: Reds players who are out of options... What about Wily Mo Pena? __________________ The motel of lost companions Waits with heated pool and bar

02-01-2012, 04:52 PM	#7
RED VAN HOT Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 928	Re: Reds players who are out of options... I had thought that Frazier would have a decent shot because he can play both 3B and OF and even 2B and SS in an emergency, but seeing that Francisco is out of options changes that. Barring injuries or a fantastic spring, it looks as if Janish, Frazier, and Phipps will be headed to AAA. That would mean 4 OF and 7 IF. Not happy with Valdez staying on the 25 and getting some starts at SS, but it is shaping up that way.

02-01-2012, 05:34 PM	#8
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,678	Re: Reds players who are out of options... I wonder if the Reds could have Leased Wily Mo to Japan for two seasons. I'm only half joking. You can't send him down to affiliated minor league baseball without him clearing waivers, but you can SELL his contract. Or could have, like they did Blalentein. But what if they just leased his contract? Unless there is a legal precedent as to why they can't, I suppose if the player agreed, it would be possible. __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

02-01-2012, 08:47 PM	#9
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,685	Re: Reds players who are out of options... Paul Janish is conspicuous by his absence on this list. So Valdez makes the roster as the 25th man and Janish is optioned to AAA to play SS every day. If Cozart goes down, they'll be glad they have both to split the role while playing championship caliber defense and not just one of them to flail away each day. They both have a much better chance at productivity if they can keep the PT down to 3 days per week. Hopefully Cozart plays 150 games and these two become an insurance policy that doesn't need to be used. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

02-01-2012, 10:13 PM	#11
RED VAN HOT Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 928	Re: Reds players who are out of options... I'm confused about the rules. When must Ludwick be added? If he is on a major league contract, shouldn't he have been added when he signed?

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