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Old 05-14-2012, 05:05 PM   #1
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MLB fires Braun arbitrator Das
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Shyam Das, who delivered the landmark ruling that overturned a possible drug-related suspension for superstar Ryan Braun, was fired last week as baseball's independent arbitrator, a post he'd held since 1999.

A baseball official familiar with the decision, confirmed that Major League Baseball fired Das. The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on condition of anonymity because baseball had not yet announced the move.

The Associated Press first reported that Das had been fired.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:39 PM   #2
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I wonder if das is true?
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:44 PM   #3
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Good for MLB.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:45 PM   #4
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I believe this will be forever referred to as "Das Boot".

They'll even probably make a movie out of it.
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I believe this will be forever referred to as "Das Boot".

They'll even probably make a movie out of it.
Jonah Hill is already set to star.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:49 PM   #6
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Das ist nicht sehr gut.

So how fair is the process if mlb fires guys who rule against them?
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:51 PM   #7
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Das was too late to catch Herr Braun.
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:06 PM   #8
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Das ist nicht sehr gut.

So how fair is the process if mlb fires guys who rule against them?
He's ruled against them before, as has every other arbriter. That's not why he was fired.
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:31 PM   #9
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He's ruled against them before, as has every other arbriter. That's not why he was fired.
Name another time that Das ruled against MLB in a drug suspension case.

The players have an arbitrator that always rules or them. MLB has an arbitrator that always rules for them. Das breaks the tie. If he had ruled differently in the Braun case, he almost assuredly wouldnt have been fired.
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MLB also fired the arbitrator who ushered in free agency

Poor losers
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:45 PM   #11
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MLB also fired the arbitrator who ushered in free agency

Poor losers
I was just about to bring that up.
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Name another time that Das ruled against MLB in a drug suspension case.

The players have an arbitrator that always rules or them. MLB has an arbitrator that always rules for them. Das breaks the tie. If he had ruled differently in the Braun case, he almost assuredly wouldnt have been fired.
According to the rules, the public would only know about cases in which a suspension was upheld. The Braun case was unique because information was leaked before the hearing. So really, we should never know if an arbitrator ruled against MLB.

I don't agree that if he had ruled differently he wouldn't have been fired. He was fired because of the reason why he ruled against MLB, not because he ruled against them. They obviously felt Das overstepped his authority and ruled based on his own personal interpretation of the rules, instead of following them as they were written. A very strong case can be made that they are correct in that belief.
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Das the way... uh huh, uh huh... they like it.
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Old 05-14-2012, 09:09 PM   #14
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NO DAS! NO DAS!
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According to the rules, the public would only know about cases in which a suspension was upheld. The Braun case was unique because information was leaked before the hearing. So really, we should never know if an arbitrator ruled against MLB.

I don't agree that if he had ruled differently he wouldn't have been fired. He was fired because of the reason why he ruled against MLB, not because he ruled against them. They obviously felt Das overstepped his authority and ruled based on his own personal interpretation of the rules, instead of following them as they were written. A very strong case can be made that they are correct in that belief.
Interesting. NASCAR recently had their independent arbitrator rule against them. I fully expect them to fire him. He did the same thing--interpreted the rules differently than the sanctioning body. Nothing unusual in this case. The arbitrator was personal friends with the rule violator. I don't imagine Das was friends with Braun, but was he from Milwaukee?
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