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dunner13 · 12-13-2010, 09:13 AM

From Mlbtraderumors.com

If you believe in the mystery team, the lefty may have three legitimate suitors. Otherwise, it's just the Yankees and Rangers. The top bullets have the latest:

The unidentified third team is only willing to go four or five years, writes George A. King III of the New York Post.

Its a longshot that we are the mystery team or that there is a mystery team at all, but my only hope is that I heard one baseball analyst saying that if an owner really wants a player sometimes he will tell the GM to go get him and he will pay for him separate from the budget. I know Walt tried hard to get Lee during the season, you have to think if we were willing to trade prospects to get him then maybe we were willing to spend the money to sign him long term.

westofyou · 12-13-2010, 09:24 AM

Not a chance in the world.

RedLegSuperStar · 12-13-2010, 09:25 AM

I always like to think that.. But I can't see this team spending $20+ million for the next 6-7 years on Lee. I'd love to see this team make a splash like that.. But just don't think it's financially fiesable.

Red Leader · 12-13-2010, 09:28 AM

I agree. There's about a zero percent chance we are the mystery team. I could see that mystery team being either the Angels, Cubs, Nats, or the Red Sox (how big of a dagger would that be?).

lollipopcurve · 12-13-2010, 09:29 AM

Given their previous interest in Lee, their ability to be "creative" with contracts, and the fact they swooped in quietly on Chapman, I don't put it past them. But with the microscope that's on these negotiations, I'm guessing no.

alexad · 12-13-2010, 09:45 AM

It is Christmas time. So why not wish for it. The Reda have not been in their current position since 1995. So who knows what may happen. Getting over the hump is what needs to happen.

Maybe we get Lee and then trade a starter to the Royals for Greinke.

No chance I know but if you do not ask for it chances are you do not get it.

GoReds · 12-13-2010, 09:46 AM

I think it's just Lee's agent trying to drive the process.

lollipopcurve · 12-13-2010, 09:54 AM

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I think it's just Lee's agent trying to drive the process.

Good chance of that. But the fact that it's taking a several days following "final offers," or what was reported as final offers, makes the machinations of a mystery team seem more plausible.

But you're probably right. The ink may not have dried on the Texas and NYY true final offers.

I(heart)Freel · 12-13-2010, 09:59 AM

It's the years that will keep the Reds out of it. There just is no way they pay premium price for the number of years it would take. Not with a 7-deep roto right now and a Votto extension looming.

A trade would be a much smarter way to get the ace this team needs for another October run.

edabbs44 · 12-13-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lollipopcurve

Given their previous interest in Lee, their ability to be "creative" with contracts, and the fact they swooped in quietly on Chapman, I don't put it past them. But with the microscope that's on these negotiations, I'm guessing no.

My thoughts exactly.

Ron Madden · 12-13-2010, 10:07 AM

Doubtful.

Griffey012 · 12-13-2010, 11:34 AM

I really hope we are not. I would love to have Lee for the next couple of seasons, as in about 3. But it would be horrible for our team to tie down that kind of money over that many years.

Johnny Footstool · 12-13-2010, 12:00 PM

Yomiyuri Giants?

LoganBuck · 12-13-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

Yomiyuri Giants?

I would love to see Chris Carpenter explain that one to his son.

TRF · 12-13-2010, 01:52 PM

Well, since I don't feel monkeys coming out of my butt, I doubt the Reds are the mystery team.

12-13-2010, 09:13 AM	#1
dunner13 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 589	Cliff Lee signs with Phillies From Mlbtraderumors.com If you believe in the mystery team, the lefty may have three legitimate suitors. Otherwise, it's just the Yankees and Rangers. The top bullets have the latest: The unidentified third team is only willing to go four or five years, writes George A. King III of the New York Post. Its a longshot that we are the mystery team or that there is a mystery team at all, but my only hope is that I heard one baseball analyst saying that if an owner really wants a player sometimes he will tell the GM to go get him and he will pay for him separate from the budget. I know Walt tried hard to get Lee during the season, you have to think if we were willing to trade prospects to get him then maybe we were willing to spend the money to sign him long term.

12-13-2010, 09:24 AM	#2
westofyou breath Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PDX Posts: 39,365	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? Not a chance in the world.

12-13-2010, 09:25 AM	#3
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? I always like to think that.. But I can't see this team spending $20+ million for the next 6-7 years on Lee. I'd love to see this team make a splash like that.. But just don't think it's financially fiesable. __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L

12-13-2010, 09:28 AM	#4
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? I agree. There's about a zero percent chance we are the mystery team. I could see that mystery team being either the Angels, Cubs, Nats, or the Red Sox (how big of a dagger would that be?). __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

12-13-2010, 09:29 AM	#5
lollipopcurve Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shelburne Falls, MA Posts: 9,483	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? Given their previous interest in Lee, their ability to be "creative" with contracts, and the fact they swooped in quietly on Chapman, I don't put it past them. But with the microscope that's on these negotiations, I'm guessing no. __________________ "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

12-13-2010, 09:45 AM	#6
alexad HS Athletic Director Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleves, Ohio Posts: 1,165	It is Christmas time. So why not wish for it. The Reda have not been in their current position since 1995. So who knows what may happen. Getting over the hump is what needs to happen. Maybe we get Lee and then trade a starter to the Royals for Greinke. No chance I know but if you do not ask for it chances are you do not get it. __________________ Taylor High School Home of the "Yellowjackets"

12-13-2010, 09:46 AM	#7
GoReds Cruisin' for trouble Join Date: May 2000 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 3,287	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? I think it's just Lee's agent trying to drive the process.

12-13-2010, 09:59 AM	#9
I(heart)Freel Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Side (No Diggity) Posts: 1,010	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? It's the years that will keep the Reds out of it. There just is no way they pay premium price for the number of years it would take. Not with a 7-deep roto right now and a Votto extension looming. A trade would be a much smarter way to get the ace this team needs for another October run. __________________ I have a love-hate relationship with Albert Pujols. Mostly hate.

12-13-2010, 10:07 AM	#11
Ron Madden Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,815	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? Doubtful.

12-13-2010, 11:34 AM	#12
Griffey012 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,013	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? I really hope we are not. I would love to have Lee for the next couple of seasons, as in about 3. But it would be horrible for our team to tie down that kind of money over that many years. __________________ "Today was the byproduct of us thinking we can come back from anything." - Joey Votto after blowing a 10-1 lead and holding on for the 12-11 win on 8/25/2010.

12-13-2010, 12:00 PM	#13
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,665	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? Yomiyuri Giants? __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

12-13-2010, 01:52 PM	#15
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,678	Re: Do you think we could be the mystery team? Well, since I don't feel monkeys coming out of my butt, I doubt the Reds are the mystery team. __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

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