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Old 07-05-2012, 08:31 AM   #16
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Re: Were will the Reds be in the standings on Aug. 4th?

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A very good question. And yet, somehow, Dusty manages to pull it off.
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:13 AM   #17
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A very good question. And yet, somehow, Dusty manages to pull it off.
I think most of the success Dusty's teams have had are in spite of his efforts not because of his efforts.
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:25 AM   #18
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1st place on August 4th.....book it!!!
How DARE you be positive?!?!?

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Old 07-05-2012, 09:30 AM   #19
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Re: Were will the Reds be in the standings on Aug. 4th?

Where does August 4th come into play? Strange date....

Including Aug. 4th, the Reds have 8 games against the Pirates, 10 games against the Cubs, 6 games against the Astros, and 7 against the struggling Phillies. Seven games back doesn't really seem that bad with those many winable games on the schedule.

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Old 07-05-2012, 11:09 AM   #20
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The same place they've been most of the season so far, in first place. The Pirates are going to come back to earth at some point. If not for a handful of ridiculous late game losses, the Reds would be comfortably in first place. With the kind of pitching and defense the Reds have, there's no way they'll ever be seven games out of first. So far we're 3-4 on the west coast swing, having played arguably two of the five best teams in the league. We just need to take three of four from the Pads and it will have been a successful road trip. I hope some of you guys don't live near any bridges.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:27 AM   #21
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The same place they've been most of the season so far, in first place. The Pirates are going to come back to earth at some point. If not for a handful of ridiculous late game losses, the Reds would be comfortably in first place. With the kind of pitching and defense the Reds have, there's no way they'll ever be seven games out of first. So far we're 3-4 on the west coast swing, having played arguably two of the five best teams in the league. We just need to take three of four from the Pads and it will have been a successful road trip. I hope some of you guys don't live near any bridges.
We went 3-4 against the Giants....but the Dodgers were without Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier and we missed Kershaw....that was not even remotely close to a top NL team as we faced them.

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Old 07-05-2012, 11:46 AM   #22
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We went 3-4 against the Giants....but the Dodgers were without Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier and we missed Kershaw....that was not even remotely close to a top NL team as we faced them.
I could be wrong, but I believe we were 4-3 against the Giants this year (including two games we absolutely blew late). As of yesterday, the Dodgers were #5 in USA Today's MLB power rankings (one spot behind SF and one spot ahead of the Reds), and they are now back in first place in the NL West. Even without Kemp and Ethier, they're pretty good.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:57 AM   #23
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I think most of the success Dusty's teams have had are in spite of his efforts not because of his efforts.
So, give you a manager that does not win games, but does things the way you like and you will be happy?
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:00 PM   #24
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I could be wrong, but I believe we were 4-3 against the Giants this year (including two games we absolutely blew late). As of yesterday, the Dodgers were #5 in USA Today's MLB power rankings (one spot behind SF and one spot ahead of the Reds), and they are now back in first place in the NL West. Even without Kemp and Ethier, they're pretty good.
I know throughout the season the Dodgers have been very good....but they were without 2 of the most productive players in the NL (by far their most productive) and we missed a unanimous CY from last year. I agree they have been 1 of the best teams the 1st half....but we'll just have to disagree on the team we just faced.
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I know throughout the season the Dodgers have been very good....but they were without 2 of the most productive players in the NL (by far their most productive) and we missed a unanimous CY from last year. I agree they have been 1 of the best teams the 1st half....but we'll just have to disagree on the team we just faced.
We lost the last two nights because the Dodger pitching staff shut us down. Their offense isn't the same without Kemp and Ethier, obviously, but they still have one of the five best pitching staffs in the league -- even with us missing Kershaw. I know I'm in the minority, but going 3-4 at SF and LA isn't that bad. We just need to hammer the Padres. If we can't do that, we don't deserve to be in first place right now anyway.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:13 PM   #26
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We lost the last two nights because the Dodger pitching staff shut us down. Their offense isn't the same without Kemp and Ethier, obviously, but they still have one of the five best pitching staffs in the league -- even with us missing Kershaw. I know I'm in the minority, but going 3-4 at SF and LA isn't that bad. We just need to hammer the Padres. If we can't do that, we don't deserve to be in first place right now anyway.
3-4 doesn't bother me....but 6-10 starts to.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:14 PM   #27
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Without even looking at the schedule In 3rd place 6 out, I'm afraid.

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Old 07-05-2012, 12:30 PM   #28
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One item that bodes well for the team's performing well down the stretch is that this bullpen, in addition to being one of the league's best, is very well-rested. In years past it was overused early and scuffled in the second half.
The rotation is greatly improved from even 2010. This staff is very close to being the best in the majors.
Another factor is the fact that defense never slumps. Or maybe it doesn't have such severe ups and downs as the other parts of the game.

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Old 07-05-2012, 12:38 PM   #29
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One item that bodes well for the team's performing well down the stretch is that this bullpen, in addition to being one of the league's best, is very well-rested. In years past it was overused early and scuffled in the second half.
The rotation is greatly improved from even 2010. This staff is very close to being the best in the majors.
Another factor is the fact that defense never slumps. Or maybe it doesn't have such severe ups and downs as the other parts of the game.

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When you can only score an average of 3 runs a game idk if our pitching will be enough. It definitely wont be enough in the playoffs if the Reds make it there
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