Justin Upton...again - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Benihana · 07-06-2012, 08:25 PM

Here we go again.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...tin-upton.html

I'd back up the truck.

Drew Stubbs + any three guys in the system they want, ex-Billy Hamilton.

Or Chapman straight up.

cincrazy · 07-06-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Benihana

Here we go again.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...tin-upton.html

I'd back up the truck.

Drew Stubbs + any three guys in the system they want, ex-Billy Hamilton.

Or Chapman straight up.

To get Justin Upton, we'd have to include Hamilton. Or Chapman and others. There's no way they trade him for anything short of an absolute haul. I'd consider making the move. But it'd be a fortune to give up, and we shouldn't expect anything less.

RedlegJake · 07-06-2012, 08:55 PM

I saw on the MLB board guys talking crazy stuff. Stubbs, Cingrani, Hamilton, Lotzkar, Corcino and Frazier. No thanks. If that's the haul he can stay a Diamondback or let a rival gut their system. Upton's good but baseball takes a whole team - as we're seeing this year with the game's best hitter and a couple of it's best starters and still scuffling.

PuffyPig · 07-06-2012, 09:15 PM

.831 lifetime OPS and it's not trading upwards my any means.

Sell the farm if you want, but selling everyone for someone who's expensive and not that great makes no sense.

cincrazy · 07-06-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

.831 lifetime OPS and it's not trading upwards my any means.

Sell the farm if you want, but selling everyone for someone who's expensive and not that great makes no sense.

Fair to say he's had his struggles this year, but the guy is only 24 years old, so I'm not sure it's fair to say he's trending down.

That being said, it's probably not worth gutting our system just to get a guy to put in between Votto and Bruce. Although the thought of it is nice.

M2 · 07-06-2012, 09:23 PM

My man-crush on Billy Hamilton would prevent me from going there, but a non-Hamilton trade for Upton would make me feel all giddy inside.

mth123 · 07-06-2012, 09:24 PM

Stubbs, Hamilton, Corcino and Hoover. I'm in.

Huge improvement to the big league team.

RedlegJake · 07-06-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mth123

Stubbs, Hamilton, Corcino and Hoover. I'm in.

Huge improvement to the big league team.

I think they get a better, bigger haul from someone else.

Patrick Bateman · 07-06-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

.831 lifetime OPS and it's not trading upwards my any means.

Sell the farm if you want, but selling everyone for someone who's expensive and not that great makes no sense.

It would be like acquiring another Jay Bruce, with possibly even more upside. I haven't once heard you suggest we trade Bruce, so I would imagine you would be fine giving this guy a whirl. He was worth 6.6 WAR as a 23 year old. If you aren't willing to give up prospects for him, I'm not sure if there is much sense in anything else.

I wouldn't think twice about including Hamilton in a deal for Upton.

westofyou · 07-06-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by M2

My man-crush on Billy Hamilton would prevent me from going there, but a non-Hamilton trade for Upton would make me feel all giddy inside.

I'm willing to adopt Billy, I'm hoping for the impact of Bipp Roberts to the power of ten

mth123 · 07-06-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RedlegJake

I think they get a better, bigger haul from someone else.

Probably. The Reds don't have major league ready guys to deal.

M2 · 07-06-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

I'm willing to adopt Billy, I'm hoping for the impact of Bipp Roberts to the power of ten

Bip Roberts was one of 5 leadoff hitters on my 1990 Strat team. He hit 3rd (behind Alex Cole and Brett Butler). Platooned him with Sabo.

I loved me some Bip Roberts.

RedlegJake · 07-06-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

It would be like acquiring another Jay Bruce, with possibly even more upside. I haven't once heard you suggest we trade Bruce, so I would imagine you would be fine giving this guy a whirl. He was worth 6.6 WAR as a 23 year old. If you aren't willing to give up prospects for him, I'm not sure if there is much sense in anything else.

I wouldn't think twice about including Hamilton in a deal for Upton.

Sure Hamilton. But Hamilton and every other prospect in A+ and AA who was bonafide? Because make no mistake that's what it would take.

Dan · 07-06-2012, 10:25 PM

Billy Hamilton as a SS? I'm keeping him.

Billy Hamilton as a CF? I'm including him in a trade for Upton.

westofyou · 07-06-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M2

Bip Roberts was one of 5 leadoff hitters on my 1990 Strat team. He hit 3rd (behind Alex Cole and Brett Butler). Platooned him with Sabo.

I loved me some Bip Roberts.

I know, I know... Someday I'm flying out there and we are going to play with dice and you will teach me some stuff

07-06-2012, 08:25 PM	#1
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,417	Justin Upton...again Here we go again. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...tin-upton.html I'd back up the truck. Drew Stubbs + any three guys in the system they want, ex-Billy Hamilton. Or Chapman straight up. __________________ Go BLUE!!!

07-06-2012, 08:55 PM	#3
RedlegJake Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Kansas City, Mo Posts: 3,854	Re: Justin Upton...again I saw on the MLB board guys talking crazy stuff. Stubbs, Cingrani, Hamilton, Lotzkar, Corcino and Frazier. No thanks. If that's the haul he can stay a Diamondback or let a rival gut their system. Upton's good but baseball takes a whole team - as we're seeing this year with the game's best hitter and a couple of it's best starters and still scuffling.

07-06-2012, 09:15 PM	#4
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,711	Re: Justin Upton...again .831 lifetime OPS and it's not trading upwards my any means. Sell the farm if you want, but selling everyone for someone who's expensive and not that great makes no sense.

07-06-2012, 09:23 PM	#6
M2 Posting in Dynarama Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 26,668	Re: Justin Upton...again My man-crush on Billy Hamilton would prevent me from going there, but a non-Hamilton trade for Upton would make me feel all giddy inside. __________________ Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong I'm witchcrafting everybody.

07-06-2012, 09:24 PM	#7
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,684	Re: Justin Upton...again Stubbs, Hamilton, Corcino and Hoover. I'm in. Huge improvement to the big league team. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

07-06-2012, 10:25 PM	#14
Dan OlafTheBlack Join Date: May 2000 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 2,034	Re: Justin Upton...again Billy Hamilton as a SS? I'm keeping him. Billy Hamilton as a CF? I'm including him in a trade for Upton. __________________ Genius\|Madness "Somebody will be bigger, stronger and faster than you, growing up," Griffey said with a shrug. "So why worry about it? As long as you don't let them outwork you, and you can look yourself in the mirror, then that's all you should worry about. Never worry about what somebody else is doing."

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