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Re: Justin Upton...again
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Re: Justin Upton...again
The latest article on mlbtraderumors says the Dbacks are looking for players that can help them now not prospects that are a few years away. So what about giving them Cozart and Stubbs? We may have to throw in a third prospect to make it happen but those are two guys who could help now. Gregorious is in AAA now so hopefully he would be ready to make the jump, from what I read about him in Spring Training it seems like defensively hes ready to come up now. We would obviously have a hole in CF which could either be filled by Heisey or by trading prospects for victorino, pierre, span or someone like that.
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"So Fla Red"
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: South Florida - The Real Humidor
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Re: Justin Upton...again
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Stubbs would be part of the package but you'd still need a headliner or two. IMO they'd probably want Leake, Hamilton and Stubbs to even start the conversation. Regardless, the Reds still can't afford Upton after 2013. 2014-2016 payroll is going to be a challenge without another $14M+ salary in the mix. |
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Location: Bedford, KY
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Re: Justin Upton...again
If Texas is offering Profrar and Olt together (not to mention Perez), there's nothing anyone else in baseball can offer that would trump it. Profrar is the best prospect in baseball. Olt is an absolute masher who's improved enough this year to garner some consideration as the top 3B prospect in the game. Perez has been ranked among the highest prospects in the game for four years.
Arizona might want those guys for Upton, but there's absolutely no way Texas is going to offer it. I don't know if they'd offer that for Mike Trout or Harper.
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Et tu, Brutus?
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
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Re: Justin Upton...again
I wonder if the Reds wouldn't have to part with Todd Frazier to get a deal done, given the report the D-backs are looking for a 3B.
That would solve the Reds' LF problem, but ostensibly create a hole at 3B going forward.
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The Boss
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: Justin Upton...again
To obtain Justin Upton I would gladly settle for whatever Henry Rodriguez is going to bring me at third base.
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Re: Justin Upton...again
Question. Would you do a deal of Stubbs and Chapman for Upton? Heisey woould finish ths season in center with Ludwick as the 4th outfelder and rush Hamilton up for next year. Meaning your outfield
Of the future would be Upton, Hamilton, and Bruce. |
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Location: Bedford, KY
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Re: Justin Upton...again
Me, too. Though I'd guess Rolen would play almost all the time anyway.
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: Justin Upton...again
1. Hamilton
2. Phillips 3. Votto 4. Upton 5. Bruce 6. Cozart 7. Frazier 8. Mesoraco |
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Texas is a powerhouse now and for years to come. They are doing the right things down there. Losing Josh Hamilton might just be a minor bump in the road to them if they get Upton. If they don't get Upton they have prospects to make up for Hamilton's departure one way or another. +1 Nolan Ryan and his staff.
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"So Fla Red"
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Re: Justin Upton...again
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![]() The problem is Billy Hamilton won't be ready until mid '14 and by that time Upton will be making 14M a year and best case be gone after 2015. |
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Et tu, Brutus?
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Justin Upton...again
As much as I like Frazier, I would still be willing to do it if I'm the Reds. But it would be with reservation, I think.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Moving to Atlanta in July
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I think Todd Fraziers are much easier to find than are Justin Uptons. I include Frazier in the deal and don't look back.
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My clutch is broken
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: Justin Upton...again
I'd look back a time or two but yeah, I'd make that deal.
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