7/30/12 - Reds vs Padres - Page 24 - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

smith288 · 07-30-2012, 10:37 PM

Pretty yawn inducing trade.

Boss-Hog · 07-30-2012, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ryan Ludwick have only a .500 OPS after about 85 PAs? The Reds could afford to give Cairo a longer leash before deciding if his struggles are an extended slump or a sign of things to come.

Yes, but Ludwick had most of the season left to turn it around (which he did). Cairo has been about as non-productive as it gets in the role he'll very likely occupy the rest of the season (if he remains on the team). With far better options available (Lyle Overbay, even Xavier Paul), I don't see any reason to continue giving Cairo at bats while we're in a pennant race.

As I previously stated, I genuinely do appreciate all Cairo's provided the club. Offer him a job within the organization and go with someone who's more likely to help us the rest of the year.

Kc61 · 07-30-2012, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

That's true, but that would be true with probably anyone playing his role, yes?

I'm not saying the Reds should stay indebted to Cairo, nor should they give him a free pass the entire season. But he hasn't even cracked 100 plate appearances, so that has to be considered before deciding whether there are better, available options to replace him with. If the Reds can find an upgrade, by all means they should do it. But the others they've tried, Mike Constanzo comes to mind, certainly were not it.

This will all sort out after the deadline. Other than starters, the only possible cuts from the position players are Cairo and Paul. Heisey could get traded, but won't be cut, nor will Valdez or Mes obviously.

Votto's return will require somebody to go, any addition (Overbay, etc.) will require a second player to go.

So we'll know soon enough.

OldXOhio · 07-30-2012, 10:41 PM

Morosi tweeting Reds are after Overbay

Vottomatic · 07-30-2012, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Probably because the Reds aren't as short-tempered as fans are.

The guy has been a solid role player the last couple of years. They're going to give him plenty of time before making a rash decision. Assignments for guys of his experience aren't something you do without plenty of consideration.

It's a tough one for me too because I've witnessed Cairo have some really big hits for this team the last couple of years, and fill in well for Rolen. It's a shame he has struggled this year.

He is one of the most popular players in the clubhouse. If released, it could be a huge negative on team chemistry.

But clearly, from a baseball standpoint, Cairo looks done at the plate, and we have other guys who can play the same backup role.

I think they have to roll the dice and let him go. If no team picks him up, play him every day at Louisville and see if his bat comes back.

reds44 · 07-30-2012, 10:43 PM

Man I really thought we'd win out.

LoganBuck · 07-30-2012, 10:43 PM

Walt miffed he didnt win HOF trivia.

WVRedsFan · 07-30-2012, 10:43 PM

Pete Pistone just tweeted that Reed and Geo were traded from the Cubs.

Kc61 · 07-30-2012, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVRedsFan

Pete Pistone just tweeted that Reed and Geo were traded from the Cubs.

MLB Trade rumors say Johnson and Soto traded in separate deals.

This is too bad because the Cubs are playing the Bucs two more games. Dempster, Soto, Johnson will be gone, maybe others too. Too bad Cubs couldn't wait two days to sell.

Screwball · 07-30-2012, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reds44

Man I really thought we'd win out.

WVRedsFan · 07-30-2012, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kc61

MLB Trade rumors say Johnson and Soto traded in separate deals.

This is too bad because the Cubs are playing the Bucs two more games. Dempster, Soto, Johnson will be gone, maybe others too. Too bad Cubs couldn't wait two days to sell.

Rangers got Soto.

Vottomatic · 07-30-2012, 10:48 PM

mlbtradrumors now saying Rangers acquire Soto.

Kc61 · 07-30-2012, 10:51 PM

Padres don't have a terrible lineup at all. Don't know about their pitching, haven't followed them much.

Doing a decent job of building a lineup, though.

Tom Servo · 07-30-2012, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kc61

Padres don't have a terrible lineup at all. Don't know about their pitching, haven't followed them much.

Doing a decent job of building a lineup, though.

They have Jason Marquis and Kip Wells in their rotation, and previously featured Jeff Suppan in it as well this year.

Kc61 · 07-30-2012, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Servo

They have Jason Marquis and Kip Wells in their rotation, and previously featured Jeff Suppan in it as well this year.

Ah, there's the rub. Thanks.

07-30-2012, 10:37 PM	#346
smith288 Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Albany, OH Posts: 7,202	Re: 7/30/12 - Reds vs Padres Pretty yawn inducing trade. __________________ Did you like that?

07-30-2012, 10:43 PM	#352
LoganBuck I hate the Cubs Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,627	Re: 7/30/12 - Reds vs Padres Walt miffed he didnt win HOF trivia. __________________ Whenever you get mad over a called strike or ball on a close pitch, it's the equivalent of being mad at the QB pump-faking one time before throwing a pass in your average NFL game. ---Caveat Emperor

07-30-2012, 10:43 PM	#353
WVRedsFan Lime in da Coconut Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Rainelle, WV Posts: 7,727	Re: 7/30/12 - Reds vs Padres Pete Pistone just tweeted that Reed and Geo were traded from the Cubs. __________________ www.ris-news.com "The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday they might force their beliefs on us." Mario Cuomo "You only have to bat a thousand in two things; flying and heart transplants. Everything else you can go 4-for-5." -Beano Cook

07-30-2012, 10:48 PM	#357
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,976	Re: 7/30/12 - Reds vs Padres mlbtradrumors now saying Rangers acquire Soto. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

07-30-2012, 10:51 PM	#358
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,040	Re: 7/30/12 - Reds vs Padres Padres don't have a terrible lineup at all. Don't know about their pitching, haven't followed them much. Doing a decent job of building a lineup, though.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode