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redsmetz · 07-31-2012, 11:08 AM

I wondered about where to put this question, but decided why not let it have its own thread.

So with Mesoraco being thrown out of last night's game, plus him likely facing a suspension (hopefully brief), just who is our emergency catcher right now? Especially since that kid Votto is on the DL.

Seriously, I don't see anyone on our roster who has any experience at catcher. And as others noted in the Mez thread, none of our minor league catchers are on the 40 man roster.

It's always seemed we had one player who was the guy you knew you'd turn to if an emergency ever came up. I had to go look this up, but I remember Joel Youngblood filling in during a game, turns out it was early in 1976 and Sparky was substituting bench guys in with a 7-0 lead. Bill Plummer pinchhit for Bench and then got thrown out for arguing a strikeout with the ump. Youngblood volunteered, his only catching experience: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...97604250.shtml

So who would we have turned to if something had happened to Ryan last night. For that matter, Mez getting suspended may require some backup (and no, it won't be former catcher Joseph Votto).

Benihana · 07-31-2012, 11:14 AM

I wonder if Navarro gets a look for a few days.

crazybob60 · 07-31-2012, 11:15 AM

If I had to guess...if worse came to worse and something would have happened last night to Hanigan after Mes was tossed, 2 guys immediately pop up.

1. Frazier (I bet he would volunteer for it just for the challenge).
2. Heisey (I just see him being able to do it)

3. Cairo (he isn't part of the 2 because I just don't know if he could at this point in his career, earlier in his career I bet he would have been a no brainer here)

marcshoe · 07-31-2012, 11:22 AM

If the Reds need to call up either Navarro or Corky, there are several ways they could do it, although their not being on the 40-man complicates things. Off the top of my head:

1. They can still do a trade that frees up a spot.

2. There is chaff at the bottom, guys like Negron, who can be cut without regret.

3. Once a space opens up, There are guys with options who can be shifted down temporarily. One option would, of course, be Paul, but that might be contingent on picking up someone like Overbay.

4. Leake still has options, so if the suspension coincides with a rare off day, they could send him down and skip his spot in the rotation.

5. They could re-work Wily Mo's contract so he can be sent down.

6. Even without a trade, Cairo could be cut.

7. A DL spot could open up at any time.

And I'm sure there are other ways of doing this. I'm not sure I really want to put Frazier or whoever back there, even though I vividly remember listening to the game when Youngblood put on the tools of ignorance.

redsmetz · 07-31-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crazybob60

If I had to guess...if worse came to worse and something would have happened last night to Hanigan after Mes was tossed, 2 guys immediately pop up.

1. Frazier (I bet he would volunteer for it just for the challenge).
2. Heisey (I just see him being able to do it)

3. Cairo (he isn't part of the 2 because I just don't know if he could at this point in his career, earlier in his career I bet he would have been a no brainer here)

I thought of Frazier and Cairo. Heisey hadn't occurred to me, but my guess is it would be from this group (had Heisey already pinch hit at that point? I don't recall).

Homer Bailey · 07-31-2012, 11:30 AM

Call up Navarro, cut Cairo. Cairo really doesn't have a role on this team, especially when Votto gets back.

medford · 07-31-2012, 11:35 AM

IIRC, the appeal process has been speed up from my youth (used to be you could appeal and your appeal wouldn't be for a month or so) Would be nice if they could appeal this out until september, then use the 25 man roster expansion to call up Corky or Navarro and use them as the backup for his suspension.

BCubb2003 · 07-31-2012, 11:54 AM

They could try Leake there.

George Anderson · 07-31-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BCubb2003

They could try Leake there.

He has sticky fingers so I doubt you will see many passed balls.

PuffyPig · 07-31-2012, 12:23 PM

The emergeny catcher wasn't Heisey or they wouldn't have PH him so early. It was likely Frazier, or perhaps Valdez.

Team Clark · 07-31-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson

He has sticky fingers so I doubt you will see many passed balls.

I really needed that... laughing soothes the soul. (Nice when someone comes to check on you because you laughed so hard you fell out of your chair!) Bravo!

Raisor · 07-31-2012, 12:30 PM

Release Cairo, sign Javier Valentin. Javy earns a ring when the world series that Chip will get to wear around his neck.

Chip R · 07-31-2012, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raisor

Release Cairo, sign Javier Valentin. Javy earns a ring when the world series that Chip will get to wear around his neck.

crazybob60 · 07-31-2012, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raisor

Release Cairo, sign Javier Valentin. Javy earns a ring when the world series that Chip will get to wear around his neck.

As long as he is still sportin the stache.

vic715 · 07-31-2012, 02:07 PM

Vadez did catch in a minor league game in 2000 at Cape Fear in the So.Atl League.

07-31-2012, 11:08 AM	#1
redsmetz Redsmetz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winton Place Posts: 10,449	Emergency Catcher I wondered about where to put this question, but decided why not let it have its own thread. So with Mesoraco being thrown out of last night's game, plus him likely facing a suspension (hopefully brief), just who is our emergency catcher right now? Especially since that kid Votto is on the DL. Seriously, I don't see anyone on our roster who has any experience at catcher. And as others noted in the Mez thread, none of our minor league catchers are on the 40 man roster. It's always seemed we had one player who was the guy you knew you'd turn to if an emergency ever came up. I had to go look this up, but I remember Joel Youngblood filling in during a game, turns out it was early in 1976 and Sparky was substituting bench guys in with a 7-0 lead. Bill Plummer pinchhit for Bench and then got thrown out for arguing a strikeout with the ump. Youngblood volunteered, his only catching experience: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...97604250.shtml So who would we have turned to if something had happened to Ryan last night. For that matter, Mez getting suspended may require some backup (and no, it won't be former catcher Joseph Votto). __________________ “In the same way that a baseball season never really begins, it never really ends either.” - Lonnie Wheeler, "Bleachers, A Summer in Wrigley Field" The Baseball Emporium - Books & Things, that's Rallyonion.com The Baseball Bookstore http://tsc-sales.com/ http://tscsales.blogspot.com/ http://silverscreenbooks.com/

07-31-2012, 11:14 AM	#2
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,409	Re: Emergency Catcher I wonder if Navarro gets a look for a few days. __________________ Go BLUE!!!

07-31-2012, 11:15 AM	#3
crazybob60 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brownsville, KY Posts: 956	Re: Emergency Catcher If I had to guess...if worse came to worse and something would have happened last night to Hanigan after Mes was tossed, 2 guys immediately pop up. 1. Frazier (I bet he would volunteer for it just for the challenge). 2. Heisey (I just see him being able to do it) 3. Cairo (he isn't part of the 2 because I just don't know if he could at this point in his career, earlier in his career I bet he would have been a no brainer here)

07-31-2012, 11:22 AM	#4
marcshoe Ex-tixe Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Just past Mars Posts: 4,469	Re: Emergency Catcher If the Reds need to call up either Navarro or Corky, there are several ways they could do it, although their not being on the 40-man complicates things. Off the top of my head: 1. They can still do a trade that frees up a spot. 2. There is chaff at the bottom, guys like Negron, who can be cut without regret. 3. Once a space opens up, There are guys with options who can be shifted down temporarily. One option would, of course, be Paul, but that might be contingent on picking up someone like Overbay. 4. Leake still has options, so if the suspension coincides with a rare off day, they could send him down and skip his spot in the rotation. 5. They could re-work Wily Mo's contract so he can be sent down. 6. Even without a trade, Cairo could be cut. 7. A DL spot could open up at any time. And I'm sure there are other ways of doing this. I'm not sure I really want to put Frazier or whoever back there, even though I vividly remember listening to the game when Youngblood put on the tools of ignorance. __________________ At the Edge of the Woods Preview Go to the edge of the cliff and jump off. Build your wings on the way down. --Ray Bradbury Last edited by tixe; 07-31-2012 at 11:25 AM.

07-31-2012, 11:30 AM	#6
Homer Bailey I'm back... and forth Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,599	Re: Emergency Catcher Call up Navarro, cut Cairo. Cairo really doesn't have a role on this team, especially when Votto gets back.

07-31-2012, 11:35 AM	#7
medford Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,035	Re: Emergency Catcher IIRC, the appeal process has been speed up from my youth (used to be you could appeal and your appeal wouldn't be for a month or so) Would be nice if they could appeal this out until september, then use the 25 man roster expansion to call up Corky or Navarro and use them as the backup for his suspension.

07-31-2012, 11:54 AM	#8
BCubb2003 Haunted by walks Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Syracuse Posts: 6,297	Re: Emergency Catcher They could try Leake there.

07-31-2012, 12:23 PM	#10
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,694	Re: Emergency Catcher The emergeny catcher wasn't Heisey or they wouldn't have PH him so early. It was likely Frazier, or perhaps Valdez.

07-31-2012, 12:30 PM	#12
Raisor Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,673	Re: Emergency Catcher Release Cairo, sign Javier Valentin. Javy earns a ring when the world series that Chip will get to wear around his neck. __________________ "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

07-31-2012, 02:07 PM	#15
vic715 Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: lake city florida Posts: 794	Re: Emergency Catcher Vadez did catch in a minor league game in 2000 at Cape Fear in the So.Atl League. __________________ "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."

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