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Old 08-21-2012, 03:10 PM   #1
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Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

While Mesoraco to serve 2-game suspension tonight and tomorrow
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:12 PM   #2
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

I wouldn't mind Ondrusek staying down there.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:15 PM   #3
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

Well it at least establishes the pecking order in some sense.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:15 PM   #4
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

Holy crap. I'm shocked Ondrusek got optioned.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:16 PM   #5
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Holy crap. I'm shocked Ondrusek got optioned.
Why? It's not really that shocking. As I said in the game thread yesterday, Alfredo Simon's usage had nothing to do with being thought of as less than a pitcher, but he was more suited to go longer innings than Ondrusek.

Ondrusek made the most sense. I don't know why this is shocking.
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Why? It's not really that shocking. As I said in the game thread yesterday, Alfredo Simon's usage had nothing to do with being thought of as less than a pitcher, but he was more suited to go longer innings than Ondrusek.

Ondrusek made the most sense. I don't know why this is shocking.
Oh Ondrusek is hot garbage and he should have been the one to go, but I didn't think the Reds would actually do it.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:18 PM   #7
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

I thought it would be Lecure myself.

You have to go with 24 men during suspension.

They had to add a catcher since Mes is out.

So they will go with 11 pitchers for awhile, since they can only have a 24 man squad.

Logan probably deserved it, but as indicated move was made IMO because of the suspension.

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Old 08-21-2012, 03:19 PM   #8
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

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This relates Mesoraco suspension, folks. I thought it would be Lecure myself.

You have to go with 24 men during suspension.

They had to add a catcher if Mes is out.

So they will go with 11 pitchers for awhile, since they can only have a 24 man squad.

Logan probably deserved it, but the move was made IMO because of the suspension.
Considering the first post of the thread mentioned it's because of the suspension, you went out on a limb there

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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

2 game suspension for Mes.
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

Ondrusek can't return for 10 days unless there's an injury. So I wonder what the move will be in a couple of days when Mesoraco returns.

Masset, perhaps?
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

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Ondrusek can't return for 10 days unless there's an injury. So I wonder what the move will be in a couple of days when Mesoraco returns.

Masset, perhaps?
Hopefully Hoover.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:23 PM   #12
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

Logan's 10 days will be up on August 31 meaning he will still be playoff elegible should they decide to go that route.

Me personally? I don't want him anywhere near the playoff roster.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:24 PM   #13
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

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Ondrusek can't return for 10 days unless there's an injury. So I wonder what the move will be in a couple of days when Mesoraco returns.

Masset, perhaps?
While I missed the initial post, my error, the calculus is (I think) as follows:

Reds can't replace Mes, need to go with 24 men. Rather than have no backup catcher they had to bring up Navarro. But still can only have 24.

So they moved a pitcher, Logan, who I believe pitched 2 innings yesterday and has been ineffective.

Unless I'm wrong, I agree with Brutus that Logan is now down for 10 days.

So we'll see Hoover or Masset or Bray back when the suspension is over.

Logan's 10-day stay ends on 8/31. Will be interesting to see if he returns then or after rosters expand in September.
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

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While I missed the initial post, my error, the calculus is (I think) as follows:

Reds can't replace Mes, need to go with 24 men. Rather than have no backup catcher they had to bring up Navarro. But still can only have 24.

So they moved a pitcher, Logan, who I believe pitched 2 innings yesterday and has been ineffective.

Unless I'm wrong, I agree with Brutus that Logan is now down for 10 days.

So we'll see Hoover or Masset or Bray back when the suspension is over.

Logan's 10-day stay ends on 8/31. Will be interesting to see if he returns then or after rosters expand in September.
The only exception to Logan having to stay down for 10 days would be if a player went on the DL he could come up earlier to take that spot but otherwise he would be down for 10 days. I have not heard much about Masset recently. I would think he has to be getting close if he is going to come back this year at all.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:31 PM   #15
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Re: Dioner Navarro (#30) recalled, Ondrusek optioned to Louisville.

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The only exception to Logan having to stay down for 10 days would be if a player went on the DL he could come up earlier to take that spot but otherwise he would be down for 10 days. I have not heard much about Masset recently. I would think he has to be getting close if he is going to come back this year at all.
Frankly, even if Logan got some kind of special exception due to the suspension, I'm not sure Reds would bring him back early anyway. He's really had trouble of late.

Righty pitching tomorrow, guessing Navarro starts that game for Reds.
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