NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Revering4Blue · 03-21-2012, 01:06 PM

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The NFL came down hard on the New Orleans Saints on Wednesday.

Saints coach Sean Payton has been suspended for one year, former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was suspended indefinitely, general manager Mickey Loomis was suspended for eight regular-season games, the team was fined $500,000 and lost two second-round draft picks (one in 2012 and '13) as a result of a bounty program conducted by the team during the 2009-11 seasons

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...-year-bounties

cincrazy · 03-21-2012, 01:09 PM

For one year? Are you KIDDING me?! Holy crap. Moral of the story: DO NOT PISS OFF ROGER GOODELL.

BuckeyeRed27 · 03-21-2012, 01:19 PM

It's harsh but I like it. You can't have stuff like that in the game and it sends a good message. I'm sure it's also strongly motivated by trying to prevent future lawsuits about not caring about player safety.

Assembly Hall · 03-21-2012, 01:22 PM

It does seem harsh.......but the NFL has to do something considering the lawsuits coming up against them.

Stray · 03-21-2012, 01:23 PM

There's one way to make sure this crap gets out of the game for good, by dropping down this kinda punishment. Good move for the NFL, ouch for the Saints.

RedFanAlways1966 · 03-21-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cincrazy

For one year? Are you KIDDING me?! Holy crap. Moral of the story: DO NOT PISS OFF ROGER GOODELL.

Or the moral may be "do not give cash payments for injuring another player". Injuries do happen (esp. in football), but to pay the guy who causes the injury is just wrong. I know other teams do it or have done it, but that does not make it right.

I am glad to see the punishment that was given.

cincrazy · 03-21-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966

Or the moral may be "do not give cash payments for injuring another player". Injuries do happen (esp. in football), but to pay the guy who causes the injury is just wrong. I know other teams do it or have done it, but that does not make it right.

I am glad to see the punishment that was given.

Hey, I never said I was against the punishment. I think it's deplorable stuff. But let's be real, are the Saints the ONLY team in the NFL doing this? Or one of maybe a dozen? You mean to tell me the Ravens have never done this? The Steelers? The Jets? I simply don't believe it. I don't have a problem with the suspension, but if he gets evidence others have done it (and I'd be shocked if he didn't) he's got a hell of a standard to live up to.

RedFanAlways1966 · 03-21-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cincrazy

Hey, I never said I was against the punishment. I think it's deplorable stuff. But let's be real, are the Saints the ONLY team in the NFL doing this? Or one of maybe a dozen? You mean to tell me the Ravens have never done this? The Steelers? The Jets? I simply don't believe it. I don't have a problem with the suspension, but if he gets evidence others have done it (and I'd be shocked if he didn't) he's got a hell of a standard to live up to.

OK, I am glad you agree with it. We all know that others do it. But the Saints got caught red-handed and admitted it. Like the 1919 White Sox (not as severe of course!) you need to send a strong message to others in the hope that it stops.

cumberlandreds · 03-21-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966

OK, I am glad you agree with it. We all know that others do it. But the Saints got caught red-handed and admitted it. Like the 1919 White Sox (not as severe of course!) you need to send a strong message to others in the hope that it stops.

You are right. The Saints were the unlucky ones to get caught. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if a good chunk of the teams had some sort of bounty system. It's been going on for as long as the NFL has been around. It was one those snicker and grin kinda things that were talked about in retirement banquets and such. Maybe this will put an end to these bounty's.

Roy Tucker · 03-21-2012, 02:22 PM

Dang. Ka-boom.

I guess Goodell wants to make sure nobody else gets any big ideas about this.

Caveat Emperor · 03-21-2012, 02:41 PM

The NFL's "SMU Moment" -- give someone the death penalty and use it as an example for all time.

Oh, and Drew Brees is coming off like a total idiot right now. He'd be the first dude getting self-righteous if it came out other players were targeting him for a season-ending / career-ending injury in exchange for cash. Now he's defending Payton and demanding explanations.

RedsBaron · 03-21-2012, 02:57 PM

I am somewhat surprised that Payton was suspended for a full season; I was expecting a suspension of between 4 to 8 games. I have no problem with the penalties though. I wonder if Gregg Williams will or should ever work in the NFL again.

Sea Ray · 03-21-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cincrazy

Hey, I never said I was against the punishment. I think it's deplorable stuff. But let's be real, are the Saints the ONLY team in the NFL doing this? Or one of maybe a dozen? You mean to tell me the Ravens have never done this? The Steelers? The Jets? I simply don't believe it. I don't have a problem with the suspension, but if he gets evidence others have done it (and I'd be shocked if he didn't) he's got a hell of a standard to live up to.

The fact that others may be doing it is exactly why this punishment is a good one. It's meant to put a stop to it pronto

Sea Ray · 03-21-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsBaron

I am somewhat surprised that Payton was suspended for a full season; I was expecting a suspension of between 4 to 8 games. I have no problem with the penalties though. I wonder if Gregg Williams will or should ever work in the NFL again.

Details are sketchy but from what I've heard one of the reasons Payton and Williams were hit so hard was because they lied about it initially. The NFL doesn't take too kindly to that

Stray · 03-21-2012, 04:19 PM

Apparently Warren Sapp is saying Jeremy Shockey was the one who 'snitched'.

03-21-2012, 01:09 PM	#2
cincrazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 4,131	Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties For one year? Are you KIDDING me?! Holy crap. Moral of the story: DO NOT PISS OFF ROGER GOODELL.

03-21-2012, 01:19 PM	#3
BuckeyeRed27 Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Culver City, CA Posts: 2,666	Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties It's harsh but I like it. You can't have stuff like that in the game and it sends a good message. I'm sure it's also strongly motivated by trying to prevent future lawsuits about not caring about player safety.

03-21-2012, 01:22 PM	#4
Assembly Hall We are back! Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Warsaw, IN Posts: 675	Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties It does seem harsh.......but the NFL has to do something considering the lawsuits coming up against them. __________________ ...and this one belongs to the Reds.

03-21-2012, 01:23 PM	#5
Stray Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,760	Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties There's one way to make sure this crap gets out of the game for good, by dropping down this kinda punishment. Good move for the NFL, ouch for the Saints.

03-21-2012, 02:22 PM	#10
Roy Tucker Be the ball Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mason, OH Posts: 11,123	Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties Dang. Ka-boom. I guess Goodell wants to make sure nobody else gets any big ideas about this. __________________ The motel of lost companions Waits with heated pool and bar

03-21-2012, 02:41 PM	#11
Caveat Emperor Titanic Struggles Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The 513 Posts: 12,134	Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties The NFL's "SMU Moment" -- give someone the death penalty and use it as an example for all time. Oh, and Drew Brees is coming off like a total idiot right now. He'd be the first dude getting self-righteous if it came out other players were targeting him for a season-ending / career-ending injury in exchange for cash. Now he's defending Payton and demanding explanations. __________________ Championships Matter. 22 Years and Counting...

03-21-2012, 02:57 PM	#12
RedsBaron Big Red Machine Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Out Wayne Posts: 22,370	Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties I am somewhat surprised that Payton was suspended for a full season; I was expecting a suspension of between 4 to 8 games. I have no problem with the penalties though. I wonder if Gregg Williams will or should ever work in the NFL again. __________________ "Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."

03-21-2012, 04:19 PM	#15
Stray Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,760	Re: NFL hammers Sean Payton/Saints for bounties Apparently Warren Sapp is saying Jeremy Shockey was the one who 'snitched'.

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