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Old 09-26-2012, 08:41 AM   #16
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Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs"

So which current Reds were on those Dodger teams? That's the worst part of all this.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:48 AM   #17
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Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs"

I have said all along I think most players during that time at least "dabbled" in taking PED's. It was not against the rules and what better way to try to get an edge. I can't really blame them in some ways. I think sometime down the road we will find out that at least 80% of the players were taking PEDS and these claims made by players like Gagne, will be largely proven correct.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:06 AM   #18
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Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs"

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Wait, did you just list all those guys and then say Kevin Brown was a "question mark"? Uh, Kevin Brown is almost as obvious as Barry Bonds IMO.
Well I limited the 'definitely' guys to the guys who either admitted to it, were suspended for it, or were included in the Mitchell Report.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:10 AM   #19
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Are drugs like Adderall on the list of banned substances? I was told last weekend by a PR person for someone who got banned from NASCAR that it was not. Tried to look it up without success.
I bet it is. In the NFL it is banned. Joe Haden from the Browns was suspended 4 games this year because of it.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:04 PM   #20
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It was not against the rules
It WAS against the rules. These were/are controlled substances.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:09 PM   #21
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Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs"

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Are drugs like Adderall on the list of banned substances? I was told last weekend by a PR person for someone who got banned from NASCAR that it was not. Tried to look it up without success.
Yes, it is a banned substance. You can get approval for it through MLB, but it can take YEARS. A minor leaguer who shall remain nameless was finally approved for it this year. He had been waiting for approval for two years.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:21 PM   #22
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It WAS against the rules. These were/are controlled substances.
Well, true. Most were anyway. I was thinking of it from the standpoint of specifically banned through their CBA.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:08 PM   #23
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Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs"

If 80% Gagne's 2003 Dodgers were using PEDs, it certainly didn't help them from the offensive standpoint. IIRC, The pitching--both starters and pen--was lights out. The offense? They couldn't score in Tijuana with a limitless wallet.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:56 AM   #24
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Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs"

I don't know if 80% of players use it, but I would say that in the 90s or early 2000s it was at least 50 precent, just from my understanding/talks.
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