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Old 10-12-2012, 10:46 AM   #46
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Priority number one, IMO, should be something I don't think Walt will able able to accomplish: extending Bailey. Not to say there aren't many other things to be done. There are, but this stands out as number 1 for the strength of the team over the next several years. Priority number two is getting Chapman into the rotation. Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, and Latos as a group can keep this club at or close to the top irrespective of a lot of the other personnel.
I think they will keep Chapman as the closer. Too dominant there and too many uncertanties if you try to make him a starter. I believe Walt adds a top 3 starter over the offseason. I believe there's a good chance it's Garza if he's healthy.

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Old 10-12-2012, 11:24 AM   #47
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OMG it's always drama. Relax, we don't need another "get out the ruler" debates.

The Reds season just ended, I honestly care more about that then getting into whether I am perceived as having acted appropriately in this thread.
If you don't care, then why entere a thread entitled "offseason priorities". It should have been obvious what it was about, if its not your cup of tee, finding or starting another thread to spread your thoughts would have been more productive than tearing down people who are looking forward.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:41 AM   #48
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The Reds don't know if they have a player for that spot, there is always a chance that Hamilton will fall flat on his face in AAA, anyway the Reds need a guy for 2013 and it certainly is not Stubbs.

They should kick the tires on Fowler, he doesn't have a long term deal.
Rockies are beyond desperate for starting pitching. Maybe a deal that includes Mike Leake wouldn't get hung up on immediately.

And I have a feeling the lines of communication for the Reds and Rays are open. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a deal is made that we'll hear was first discussed last offseason or during July.

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Old 10-12-2012, 12:07 PM   #49
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If you don't care, then why entere a thread entitled "offseason priorities". It should have been obvious what it was about, if its not your cup of tee, finding or starting another thread to spread your thoughts would have been more productive than tearing down people who are looking forward.
Because I was pissed off during the late innings of the Reds game while this thread had started to become active.

I stopped shortly thereafter, but thanks for dredging this up after it was already a sunk issue.

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Old 10-12-2012, 04:39 PM   #50
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Teach Mike Leake to play CF & Teach Drew Stubbs to throw a changeup.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:34 PM   #51
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Rockies are beyond desperate for starting pitching. Maybe a deal that includes Mike Leake wouldn't get hung up on immediately.

And I have a feeling the lines of communication for the Reds and Rays are open. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a deal is made that we'll hear was first discussed last offseason or during July.
And Mike Leake would solve the Rockies acute pitching problems? HAHA! Leake in Coors would be a very, very, very bad problem.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:41 PM   #52
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And Mike Leake would solve the Rockies acute pitching problems? HAHA! Leake in Coors would be a very, very, very bad problem.
The Rockies pitching staff is likely going to be a very, very, very bad problem in Coors Field forever no matter who they have taking the bump.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:04 PM   #53
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I didn't say I wanted young. I said I have a feeling the Reds want young.

As for CF, Billy Hamilton is obviously going to get a shot in CF. So why waste resources on getting a long term CF when the team is clearly going to put Billy there by 2014, at the absolute latest? Trading valuable resources that could be used elsewhere for a position we already have a player for? Why would we ever want that?
Get a shot is not the same as mark that position filled. We don't know a middle infielder like Billy can play CF; we're hoping he can.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:59 AM   #54
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And Mike Leake would solve the Rockies acute pitching problems? HAHA! Leake in Coors would be a very, very, very bad problem.
Look at their hapless rotation. Mike Leake wouldn't be a No. 5 there. Also, there's precedent for Reds starter castoffs to go to the NL West and pitch better.

Plus, he might hit about .330 in Coors with six or seven bombs.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:20 PM   #55
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I think a bench with Frazier and Paul as its first 2 options is a strength. But counting on Xavier Pauls to be significant contributors is a mistake too many 00's Reds teams made.
You mean Jon Nunnelly wasn't the answer?

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Old 10-13-2012, 01:25 PM   #56
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Also don't be surprised if the Reds pick up Chris Young and cash from the DBacks to play CF next year. They're looking to dump him and I just get the feeling he's a Jocketty player. "Adequate" hitter, good in CF.

Something under the radar I'd want to happen but won't is to pay a good bit of money to get Toronto miracle worker Dwayne Murphy to be our hitting coach. Won't happen and I don't even know if it'd be possible. But the guy seems like the Dave Duncan of hitting coaches.

If Dusty doesn't return or takes another role besides manager, I'd probably make Bryan Price manager if he wants it to make absolutely certain he sticks around here.
If we get Murphy can we get the "white shirt guy" too?

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Old 10-13-2012, 01:49 PM   #57
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If we get Murphy can we get the "white shirt guy" too?

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For those that want to settle for a stopgap type in CF, what about making an offer to Nate McClouth?
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:48 PM   #58
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Denard. Span. Please. When Hamilton comes up, we've got the top two lineup spots covered in front of Votto and the rest. Span solves the CF problem until Hamilton is ready, and can cover left when Hamilton takes over every day in center (which I don't expect to be next year).
Completely agree with this and I expect it too happen. I believe we were close on a deal at the deadline and it just didn't happen.
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For those that want to settle for a stopgap type in CF, what about making an offer to Nate McClouth?
No, no, for the love of baseball no!
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:38 PM   #60
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What about revisiting Shin Soo Choo?

What would the Tribe want?
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