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Old 10-17-2012, 02:06 PM   #1
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Ludwick to decline option

Per Jon Heyman of CBS sports.

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Old 10-17-2012, 02:17 PM   #2
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Re: Ludwick to decline option

They want him back, but you could probably bet they'll offer some deferred payments.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:22 PM   #3
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Not unexpected.. Would be nice to bring Ludwick back.. If he walks, we're back to hunting for a cleanup hitter, which is difficult to find..
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:29 PM   #4
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Re: Ludwick to decline option

Cant blame him. Hes tryin to cash in one more time before retirement. I do hope we can work something out with him tho. What do you guys think it will take? 8 mil a year? Im sure he wants at least 2 maybe 3 years also.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:58 PM   #5
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Re: Ludwick to decline option

Think this would get the deal done?
2013 $6M
2014 $8M
2015 $10M club option with a $2M buyout

Keep in mind that Ludwick is 34 years old. I'd say Michael Cuddyer is a good comp, and he signed a 3-year deal worth $31.5M + incentives at the age of 32.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:18 PM   #6
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Re: Ludwick to decline option

Ludwick's been much more than I thought he would be. I hope he sees that the Reds are a good fit.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:31 PM   #7
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Think this would get the deal done?
2013 $6M
2014 $8M
2015 $10M club option with a $2M buyout

Keep in mind that Ludwick is 34 years old. I'd say Michael Cuddyer is a good comp, and he signed a 3-year deal worth $31.5M + incentives at the age of 32.
That is the ABSOLUTE most I'd be willing to do. I was going to say no more than 2 years at 7MM per. If he walks from both of those, then let him walk.

And trade for Justin Upton.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:07 PM   #8
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Re: Ludwick to decline option

Is Kevin Youkilis a free agent this year?
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:08 PM   #9
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No surprise. This is probably Ludwick's last chance to get paid before he hangs the spikes up.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:10 PM   #10
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Yes. He's kind of interesting as a 3B option. But if they re-sign Ludwick, another aging slow RH hitter who plays average defense at best, I don't see Youk as a great option.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:21 PM   #11
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Think this would get the deal done?
2013 $6M
2014 $8M
2015 $10M club option with a $2M buyout

Keep in mind that Ludwick is 34 years old. I'd say Michael Cuddyer is a good comp, and he signed a 3-year deal worth $31.5M + incentives at the age of 32.
Yes, $16M guaranteed over two years. It's more than I would pay. We need to find next year's Ludwick.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:30 PM   #12
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Yes, $16M guaranteed over two years. It's more than I would pay. We need to find next year's Ludwick.
As another poster mentioned earlier in this thread and I've been saying for some time, next year's Ludwick could be Kevin Youkilis. And I wouldn't be surprised if we could get him for $5MM or less considering the hometown discount.

See if Frazier's bat can hold up enough to be an everyday LF. If not, trade for Justin Upton and move Frazier back to 3B in 2014 and/or when Youk goes on the DL in 2013.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:37 PM   #13
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If I were Jockety, I would be careful what I offered a 34 year-old LF'er that just had one of his top 3 seasons...Frazier can play LF or 3B, so there will be more options than just OF's to consider. Plus Frazier can hit 4th just as well as Ludwick did. I wouldn't have minded seeing Ludwick back at $5M for 1 year. Committing more to him is just asking for trouble in my opinion.

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Old 10-17-2012, 04:38 PM   #14
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Let him walk.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:39 PM   #15
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Two years max. I like him a lot, liked the signing at the time, but I'd bargain hard here and let him walk if the terms aren't exactly right for the Reds. 2 yrs. for 14. And, given his age, that could look really bad in less than a year.
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