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Old 10-28-2012, 11:59 PM   #1
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Free Agency Has Officially Begun

So do we go after any free agents? We NEED offensive help and a couple more bullpen arms. I am not comfortable with Arredondo, and you don't know what Bray or Masset will do.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:02 AM   #2
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Re: Free Agency Has Officially Begun

Still have 6 more days before FA can sign with new teams.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:36 AM   #3
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NO FA! I would like to trade for either Gerrardo Parra or Justin Upton. I stand by this statement when I say if it takes Billy Hamilton to get Justin Upton then we give up Billy Hamilton. I think we can add to the package and possibly bring back a pitching prospect as well I like the depth in our position prospects. I would look at giving up Masset or Bray to LAA for Bourjos. They need RP and we need a cheap leadoff type OF.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:34 AM   #4
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NO FA! I would like to trade for either Gerrardo Parra or Justin Upton. I stand by this statement when I say if it takes Billy Hamilton to get Justin Upton then we give up Billy Hamilton. I think we can add to the package and possibly bring back a pitching prospect as well I like the depth in our position prospects. I would look at giving up Masset or Bray to LAA for Bourjos. They need RP and we need a cheap leadoff type OF.
Upton is extremely overrated and has the same problem as everyone else on our team, not clutch at all
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:00 AM   #5
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NO FA! I would like to trade for either Gerrardo Parra or Justin Upton. I stand by this statement when I say if it takes Billy Hamilton to get Justin Upton then we give up Billy Hamilton. I think we can add to the package and possibly bring back a pitching prospect as well I like the depth in our position prospects. I would look at giving up Masset or Bray to LAA for Bourjos. They need RP and we need a cheap leadoff type OF.
You do not trade 1 of your best prospects for basically Drew Stubbs!!! Thats who Upton reminds me of, but with more power and little less speed.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:32 AM   #6
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Really? Higher priced Drew Stubbs?There were two Reds hitters with a better average and two Reds hitters with a better OBP. He was top 5 MVP voting in 2011. He's young and controlled for 3 more years.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:23 PM   #7
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I pick up Angel Pagan asap

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Old 10-29-2012, 05:21 PM   #8
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I wouldn't trade Hamilton for Justin Upton but comparing Upton to Stubbs is a bit much. His BA was nearly 70 points higher, OBP was nearly 80 points higher, his OPS 175 points higher, walked more, struck out less.

In fact, you could argue Stubbs was the worst hitter in baseball that got enough ABs to qualify for the batting title
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:16 AM   #9
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Re: Free Agency Has Officially Begun

It might sound crazy and I know we have Hanigan and Mesoraco but I wouldn't mind seeing AJ Pierzynski in a Reds uniform next year.

Anybody else with me?
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:56 AM   #10
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/0...ee-agents.html

wouldn't mind having Michael Bourn
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ournmi01.shtml

expensive (compare $527K to nearly $7M) and older (30 in December) but an upgrade over Stubbs
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:28 AM   #11
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/0...ee-agents.html

wouldn't mind having Michael Bourn
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ournmi01.shtml

expensive (compare $527K to nearly $7M) and older (30 in December) but an upgrade over Stubbs
I agree on Bourn.

TONS of good SP out there in 2013. I know the Reds have bigger needs this off season, but damn... Look at the potential free agent SP's out there and hypothetically insert them as you wish into our existing rotation without Leake. You can make some nasty rotations.... My favorite is Cueto, Latos, Dickey, Bailey, Arroyo - Shut up, I can dream....
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:16 AM   #12
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Re: Free Agency Has Officially Begun

I think the Reds starting day lineup will be the same lineup that ended the 2012 season, replacing Rolen with Frazier.

Phillips
Cozart
Votto
Ludwick
Bruce
Frazier
Hanigan
Stubbs (Unfortunately, the 8-hole defines my game)
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:36 PM   #13
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Re: Free Agency Has Officially Begun

FoxSports is predicting Bourn to Cincinnati.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/lists/t...photo=31401039

And Hamilton to Atlanta.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:25 PM   #14
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I pick up Angel Pagan asap

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Would probably be a good pick up, but I can't stand that guy!
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:29 PM   #15
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I think the Reds starting day lineup will be the same lineup that ended the 2012 season, replacing Rolen with Frazier.

Phillips
Cozart
Votto
Ludwick
Bruce
Frazier
Hanigan
Stubbs (Unfortunately, the 8-hole defines my game)
Cueto
Gotta get Phillips out of the 1 in my opinion. He's shown he can do it but I think he's better suited elsewhere. Not saying it will happen, I just think it should.
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