Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

mattfeet · 11-02-2012, 08:04 PM

Per mlbtr.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...os-marmol.html

Phhhl · 11-02-2012, 08:08 PM

WTH? I know they wanted to deal Haren, but they couldn't do better than that?

mattfeet · 11-02-2012, 08:09 PM

Seems like a salary trade to me.

mattfeet · 11-02-2012, 08:09 PM

I would have loved Haren.

Kc61 · 11-02-2012, 08:23 PM

As the Cubs improve, and with the Stros out of the Central, next season will be tougher for the Reds.

blumj · 11-02-2012, 08:23 PM

Yeah, I don't get it, Marmol makes like $10M, I thought the whole point of trading Haren and Santana was saving up enough to pay Greinke and keep Hunter.

757690 · 11-02-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phhhl

WTH? I know they wanted to deal Haren, but they couldn't do better than that?

If he wasn't traded today, they would have declined his option and he'd be a free agent. They had almost no leverage.

Vottomatic · 11-02-2012, 08:24 PM

Angels freeing up $$$ to sign Greinke?

Red in Chicago · 11-02-2012, 08:59 PM

Nice move for Cubs.

757690 · 11-02-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blumj

Yeah, I don't get it, Marmol makes like $10M, I thought the whole point of trading Haren and Santana was saving up enough to pay Greinke and keep Hunter.

Don't understand this for the Angels either. Would much rather have $10M to spend than Marmol in my bullpen. Makes more sense to just let Haren go.

Wonderful Monds · 11-02-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 757690

Don't understand this for the Angels either. Would much rather have $10M to spend than Marmol in my bullpen. Makes more sense to just let Haren go.

Their bullpen was a problem last year, and relievers are volatile. If Marmol can be a great reliever again, that'll help them a lot, and one year 10M is nothing to the Angels.

marcshoe · 11-02-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 757690

If he wasn't traded today, they would have declined his option and he'd be a free agent. They had almost no leverage.

Getting nothing would have been preferable. A Fahrenheit 451 style fireman who you pay $10 million? No thanks.

Wonderful Monds · 11-02-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by marcshoe

Getting nothing would have been preferable. A Fahrenheit 451 style fireman who you pay $10 million? No thanks.

I think you're being a bit harsh on Marmol. The last 3 years he's put ERAs of 2.55, 4.01, and 3.41. He's got a career 3.38 ERA. He might not have been a relief ace the past couple years, but he's not been a bad reliever outside of 2011, and he was pretty great as recently as 2010.

camisadelgolf · 11-02-2012, 09:44 PM

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The two sides haven't agreed to a trade, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The Cubs did ask Marmol if he would waive his no-trade clause to go to the Halos, but the Angels are still speaking with other clubs
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...L1CVZg3UAcP.99

marcshoe · 11-02-2012, 09:45 PM

Marmol never had the game's best control, and he seems to have less every year. I think that at this point, he's a liability in the pen. 7.3 walks per nine innings last year. 6 for his career, even, and he just turned 30. Arredondo was at 5, and I don't really want him back.

11-02-2012, 08:04 PM	#1
mattfeet Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,382	Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren Per mlbtr. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...os-marmol.html Last edited by mattfeet; 11-03-2012 at 12:30 AM.

11-02-2012, 08:08 PM	#2
Phhhl Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3,890	Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren WTH? I know they wanted to deal Haren, but they couldn't do better than that?

11-02-2012, 08:09 PM	#3
mattfeet Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,382	Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren Seems like a salary trade to me.

11-02-2012, 08:09 PM	#4
mattfeet Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,382	Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren I would have loved Haren.

11-02-2012, 08:23 PM	#5
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,847	Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren As the Cubs improve, and with the Stros out of the Central, next season will be tougher for the Reds.

11-02-2012, 08:23 PM	#6
blumj Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,332	Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren Yeah, I don't get it, Marmol makes like $10M, I thought the whole point of trading Haren and Santana was saving up enough to pay Greinke and keep Hunter. __________________ "Reality tells us there are no guarantees. Except that some day Jon Lester will be on that list of 100-game winners." - Peter Gammons

11-02-2012, 08:24 PM	#8
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,847	Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren Angels freeing up $$$ to sign Greinke? __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

11-02-2012, 08:59 PM	#9
Red in Chicago Oy Vey! Join Date: May 2000 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,252	Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren Nice move for Cubs.

11-02-2012, 09:45 PM	#15
marcshoe Ex-tixe Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Just past Mars Posts: 4,471	Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren Marmol never had the game's best control, and he seems to have less every year. I think that at this point, he's a liability in the pen. 7.3 walks per nine innings last year. 6 for his career, even, and he just turned 30. Arredondo was at 5, and I don't really want him back. __________________ At the Edge of the Woods Preview Go to the edge of the cliff and jump off. Build your wings on the way down. --Ray Bradbury Last edited by marcshoe; 11-02-2012 at 09:50 PM.

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