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Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Johnson and M.Buerhle
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11-13-2012, 07:38 PM
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Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Johnson and M.Buerhle
Buerhle and Reyes, due to their production and contracts, have negative trade value.
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11-13-2012, 07:42 PM
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11-13-2012, 07:47 PM
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Even Buerhle is being paid market rates. At some point you need to add value to the major league team, which can often be hard for a non-preferred baseball destination like Toronto. The Blue Jays are massively better today than they were yesterday, by a very large margin, and if they have the payroll capacity that this does not limit their ability to keep young talent, then i really like it for the Jays. |
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11-13-2012, 07:48 PM
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Reyes' contract is worse, but it seems as though there were more than a few interested suitors at the trade deadline.
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11-13-2012, 07:49 PM
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Unless I have a Yankees type budget, I'd stay far away. |
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11-13-2012, 07:53 PM
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Well, at least they have awesome uniforms, an attractive stadium and throngs of adoring fans. So there's that.
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11-13-2012, 07:54 PM
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But taking this much salary on can only be judged in a few years when it can be determined if the extra salaries have prevented the team from keeping cheaper and better talent. I also thing both players are likely to regress pretty quickly. |
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11-13-2012, 07:55 PM
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11-13-2012, 07:56 PM
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2. The year before that he had 6 3. It looks like he's healthy. If he is he should keep being productive. He has real offensive ability, and his defense shouldn't completely fall off the cliff (I think he's more Jimmy Rollins type). 4. 17.5M doesn't get you that much on the open market. Jose Reyes would get just a good a contract right now. Look what Brandon Phillips got. 5. Anyways should be able to look beyond WAR. He's 29. He can play SS adequately. He's a strong offensive threat. There are what, 5 other guys in the majors who can do that? |
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11-13-2012, 07:58 PM
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I'd consider him as about as good a free agent get (dollars, age, and production) as you are going to get. After seeing the contracts the Dodgers took on (and gave away prospects), the Jays got better players for a similar price. |
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11-13-2012, 07:59 PM
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11-13-2012, 08:00 PM
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So how many more times can these mega deals keep happening? There have been 2 unprecedented, enormous trades like this just in the past few months.
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