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11-13-2012, 08:03 PM
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Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Johnson and M.Buerhle
I should also note that there is a great deal of speculation about continued increasing revenue streams for baseball. On Baseball prospectus there is some thought inflation and such increasing salaries by 20% by 2014.
I think at this point if you can get a good player locked into a salary for multiple years he's going to have heavy value relative to the market. Presumably why the Dodgers would even consider doing what they are doing. Sure the Jays aren't going to get a lot of value from the Buerhle and Buck contracts, but they did need major league pitchers. They had about 5 pitchers above replacement value last year. They needed a starter, and you can say what you want about Buerhle, but he is a major league starter and would probably get a deal sniffing his current one via free agency. Not the worst contract to buy considering his health record. Buck is an adequate major league catcher and can probably be dumped relatively easily if they wish. |
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11-13-2012, 08:05 PM
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11-13-2012, 08:06 PM
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If Reyes were making $0 per year, you would likely have to give up your top 4-5 prospects to get him. At some point, there are only 5 guys on the planet who can do what Reyes can do, and there is essentially only one avenue to get a Jose Reyes (for the Jays - via trade, or you hope to get lucky with a prospect). It's not like if they keep their 17M they are going to get a different Jose Reyes, or sign 3 guys who add up to a Jose Reyes. They just added a guy who is likely their best player and should be fore multiple years. These guys dont grow on trees for Toronto. Last edited by Patrick Bateman; 11-13-2012 at 08:11 PM. |
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11-13-2012, 08:11 PM
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So, let's see....the Marlins have traded away in this past year....
Hanley Ramirez Randy Choate Edward Mujica Gaby Sanchez Kyle Kaminska Heath Bell Anibel Sanchez Omar Infante Jose Reyes Josh Johnson Mark Buehrle John Buck Emilio Bonifacio Am I missing anyone? Good lord. Contract that team is right. Sheesh!
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11-13-2012, 08:24 PM
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11-13-2012, 08:33 PM
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One thing that hasn't been discussed here yet, is how likely it now looks that the Jays will compete in the AL east next year.
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11-13-2012, 08:46 PM
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Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Johnson and M.Buerhle
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his son?
(For the record, this is the FIRST time I've ever used this internal RZ meme).
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11-13-2012, 08:47 PM
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It's not even over yet either LOL
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ml...-go-says-execs
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What a joke of a franchise they are. The big, splashy free agent signings were all a sham from the get go. He got his stadium. Now what does he care? Say what you will about Boston or the Cubs or any other number of teams, but for my money the worst run organization in baseball resides in Miami, and it isn't even that particularly close.
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B. Morrow Buerhle Drabek Romero 1. Reyes SS 2. Bonifacio 2B 3. Bautista RF 4. Encarnacion DH 5. Lawrie 3B 6. Rasmus CF 7. Lind 1B 8. d'Arnaud/Buck C 9. Davis LF I would say that is a contending team.
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Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle
All I have to say is that if I'm Buerhle or Reyes I am NOT a happy camper. Not to stereotype, but I'm imagine Miami had a certain appeal to Reyes in particular.
And if I'm Giancarlo Stanton, I'm telling my agent that I want to be next. Can't wait for the inevitable, "Sure we had some bad luck, but we built you a stadium and got you good players and you fans still didn't come out. What can we say? We had no choice."
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11-13-2012, 10:51 PM
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Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle
This is reminiscent of the recent BoSox dumping of big names and contracts to the Dodgers.
If I were a Marlins fan (if there are any, I've never met one), I'd be pretty hacked off.
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