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11-30-2012, 02:02 AM
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Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
I have been in a tough twitter negotiations, and I think I have made a deal with an informed Indians fan that would send Shin-Soo Choo to Cincinnati.
We would be giving up Tony Cingrani, Chris Heisey, a PTBNL (from low minor leagues) and possibly Mike Leake (though he is not apart of the original deal, and would only be given up if the Indians got something better from somewhere else). I would probably do this. Lets assume, for this exercise, that Choo is only a Red for a year. Remember that Choo bats lead-off, can play left field, and has an extremely high On Base Percentage. If the answer is no, where would you steer the negotiations? If the answer is yes, why do you like it? and Do you think a trade like this is realistic IRL. This was just a little fun that I sprung on him lol.
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11-30-2012, 02:38 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
So is Mike Leake in this proposal or not?
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11-30-2012, 08:36 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
Do that deal all day long if Leakes not in it
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11-30-2012, 08:51 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
Choo is a stud. I would definitely do Cingrani, Heisey and a lower level PTBNL for him. If you throw Leake in, I think we are talking about the Reds' overpaying, but if that is what it took to beat another offer, I would probably do it as long as the PTBNL was not a top 15 prospect.
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11-30-2012, 08:55 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
Either Leake or Cingrani but not both. That's an over pay at that point.
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11-30-2012, 09:05 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
Are you writing for Redlegs Review these days?
http://www.redlegsreview.com/2012/11...legs+Review%29
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11-30-2012, 09:21 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
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11-30-2012, 09:24 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
I've been pushing to acquire Choo since last off season. No way do I include Leake, but I'd certainly be willing to add pieces to the deal. And I'd definitely have my focus be on an extension.
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11-30-2012, 09:29 AM
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I'm sure another name would help push the Reds offer over others. Perhaps you don't need Leake just to beat out another team. The core deal is the three listed above.
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11-30-2012, 09:48 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
Too much for one year. We can't give up 2 of our 3 starting depth in one trade for a one year rental.
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11-30-2012, 09:49 AM
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11-30-2012, 09:59 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
Walt has a way of re-signing his one-year rental guys.
If the Reds could keep Corcino and Stephenson, and keep both shortstops, and have the working outlines of a possible extension with Choo, this is attractive. It's basically Leake and Cingrani for Choo. I would not dismiss such an idea. Last edited by Kc61; 11-30-2012 at 10:01 AM. |
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11-30-2012, 10:10 AM
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Re: Would You Be On Board for Shin-Soo Choo?
I really like Choo, but Leake and Cingrani is just too much for a one year rental.
I'd roll the dice and give in to whatever salary demands Ludwick wants before that. There's plenty of decent LF that could be had for less.. Another thing is according to baseball reference, he has a pending arb hearing on this year's salary, which may be quite expensive.
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