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Old 12-04-2012, 09:32 AM   #1
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Ludwick Contract Offer/ Ludwick has deal with the Reds.

https://twitter.com/johnfayman/statu...25632275611648

I guess we have an offer out to Ludwick. Should have some sort of response today I would think. Talk about it here!
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:40 AM   #2
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Makes a lot of sense. I'm a believer in the turnaround. He had a good rhythm at the plate and you could tell his success was a mentality. He's also the Reds best bet to save money on a FA contract because he likes the team, he likes the city as well, has family close, and would possibly defer some money.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:44 AM   #3
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Re: Ludwick Contract Offer

My guess is 2 years, $13-14 million.

Jonny Gomes getting 2-years, $10 mil from the Red Sox probably drove up the market a bit. Still can't believe the Sox were dumb enough to do that. Oh wait a minute, yes I can!

I like the idea of Ludwick re-signing and I expected it. I was surprised when Fay said on Twitter last week that he doubted Ludwick would be back with the Reds in 2013.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:46 AM   #4
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My guess is 2 years, $13-14 million.

Jonny Gomes getting 2-years, $10 mil from the Red Sox probably drove up the market a bit. Still can't believe the Sox were dumb enough to do that. Oh wait a minute, yes I can!

I like the idea of Ludwick re-signing and I expected it. I was surprised when Fay said on Twitter last week that he doubted Ludwick would be back with the Reds in 2013.
Fay seems to know as much as you or I do.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:52 AM   #5
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If Angel Pagan got 4/40, I would assume Ludwick gets closer to 2/20 with a team option for a 3rd year at 12 with a 2 buyout.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:12 AM   #6
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If the Reds are remotely considering giving Ludwick 2/20, I really hope they will entertain the Justin Upton option.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:15 AM   #7
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If Angel Pagan got 4/40, I would assume Ludwick gets closer to 2/20 with a team option for a 3rd year at 12 with a 2 buyout.
I'm thinking the same thing. If we're not going beyond two years, I don't think he's coming cheap with the way contracts have been shaping up so far. Outside of a big deal for Upton or Choo, I don't see much else out there so I think they'll press pretty hard to get a deal done.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:46 AM   #8
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I'm thinking the same thing. If we're not going beyond two years, I don't think he's coming cheap with the way contracts have been shaping up so far. Outside of a big deal for Upton or Choo, I don't see much else out there so I think they'll press pretty hard to get a deal done.
Yea, I could live with 2/20.. It would be nice to get LF settled without selling the farm. I guess we all need to get used to the salary inflation that's coming.

Nice that the Reds are trying to get this settled quickly (one way or another).
If they can't work out something with Ludwick, plenty of other options available.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:57 AM   #9
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I can see where paying Ludwick some extra accomplishes a lot for the Reds. If you can get all these things for one player on a short deal, what's not to like:

1) Cleanup hitter & RHB that hits RHP pretty well
2) Retain all your starting pitching
3) Retain all your prospects
4) Leadoff is settled with Phillips > then Hamilton
5) Good clubhouse guy. Keeps the band together.
6) Probably still below market rate
7) Platoon-able guy, so won't dry up the bench guys (Heisey, Paul, hopefully Fellhauer)

I can see a slight overpay. Especially with the way the Nats, Phils, Braves and Cards are loaded with pitching. Makes you less willy nilly with your strong staff. Ludwick keeps things pinned down in a lot of ways and moves the org forward with its own. I still want a leadoff CF though, yet the market is pretty extreme there.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:57 AM   #10
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The key to any big deal is likely Ludwick...if he signs then all emphasis shifts to getting that leadoff man. If he doesn't they may go after an Upton LF type and sit back with BP and wait for Billy.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:12 PM   #11
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Re: Ludwick Contract Offer

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#Reds talked to Ludwick, waiting hear back. "We're in the ballpark," Jocketty said. It's a 2-year deal. "I think they understand that."
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:13 PM   #12
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John Fay ‏@johnfayman

Jocketty things it will be resolved with Ludwick this week. "We need certainty with our roster." #reds
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:15 PM   #13
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#Reds talked to Ludwick, waiting hear back. "We're in the ballpark," Jocketty said. It's a 2-year deal. "I think they understand that."
Get into the ballpark with Justin Upton, please.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:57 PM   #15
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If Angel Pagan got 4/40, I would assume Ludwick gets closer to 2/20 with a team option for a 3rd year at 12 with a 2 buyout.
With Victorino getting 3/37.5, I wonder if Ludwick may be more like 2/22 with that 12/2 option.
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